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Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill
Denver Post ^ | March 8, 2002 | Bill McAllister

Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm

Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents, but Thursday the outspoken immigration foe said he may have been outmaneuvered by the White House.

President Bush has struck a deal with the House leadership to place legislation that offers an extension of amnesty on its consent calendar before Bush heads to Mexico for a state visit next week, the Colorado Republican said.

That action should ensure quick House passage of legislation that Bush has repeatedly sought from Congress. It would allow an undocumented person to receive legal standing, such as a valid green card, by filing a declaration with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

It presumably also would require the person to have been in the United States by a certain date and have filed a declaration with the INS from an appropriate sponsor, such as a relative or employer, and pay a $1,000 penalty.

"The terms are still up in the air," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration, a group that has been allied with Tancredo. "We've heard to the effect that the president wants something to bring down to Mexico."

The initial Bush proposal, designed exclusively for Mexicans, once was high on the president's legislative wish list, but it was delayed after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. However, as the president noted Wednesday in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, he now is pushing for the extension of the amnesty program known by the section of immigration law that covers it, Section 245I.

The president hailed it as a way to reunite family, separated by the border. "If you believe in family values, if you understand the worth of family and the importance of family, let's get 245I out of the United States Congress and give me a chance to sign it," Bush told the chamber members.

Tancredo, the head of a congressional caucus on immigration issues and proponent of halting virtually all immigration, said he had blocked a previous attempt by Bush to push an extension of the amnesty program through the House. But this time, he said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had agreed to place the issue on the suspension, or consent, calendar, making it difficult to defeat the proposal.

The Senate might be more favorable to the bill than the House, expanding the numbers of individuals who can apply, Tancredo said.


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To: sarcasm
You can be sure the illegal alien lobby in Washington (aka the Chris Cannon brigade) will do everything in their power to stop any federal support of mechanization. Unless there's a reason, however phony, for example the need for farm labor, then amnesties become more difficult. Illegal aliens use farm work as a steppingstone to get in, then move on to all those other jobs we won't do, like carpentry, construction, flying airplanes etc. Mechanization would take that away from them.
601 posted on 03/09/2002 2:53:29 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Do you usually just say whatever pops in your head or would you like to offer some evidence for this charge?

There's lots more but I know you're still busy ironing your sheet and reading American Patrol.

602 posted on 03/09/2002 2:54:23 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: HennepinPrisoner
More like the "Hall of People who are Smart Enough to Know What is Going to Happen"....a group I am proud to be associated with.

Yes, when you're inside the crate of apples its easy to ignore your worms when you're surrounded by so many other with the same affliction.

603 posted on 03/09/2002 2:57:47 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Vallandigham
I want to add this to the little thought to the discussion:

Without defined citizenship, sovereignty means nothing.
Without sovereignty, your vote means nothing.
Without citizenship and sovereignty, your rights mean nothing.

604 posted on 03/09/2002 2:58:40 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Jennikins
If they pay "taxes" as you say, how come they can send billions of dollars back home to Mexico?? I say it is because we support them, and their children

We should consider granting amnesty only to those who have filed an income tax return (proving they paid taxes) that Americans are required to do and who have obeyed every other law including those requiring auto insurance. I don't think very many will be able to produce a tax return for every year they lived and/or worked in America.

605 posted on 03/09/2002 2:58:46 PM PST by FITZ
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To: sarcasm
Very interesting article that you posted sars in reply #595.

There was no date when it was published but even the most "optimistic" forecast was that "maybe" that 10% of the Washington state apple crop would be automated in 8 years(2010).

Who picks the other 90% of the crop or would you let it rot on the tree?

606 posted on 03/09/2002 3:00:33 PM PST by Dane
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To: VA Advogado
There's lots more but I know you're still busy ironing your sheet

Wow...a pro-illegal immigrant, who has run out of arguments, pulls out the race card in a debate!

I'm SHOCKED!! SHOCKED, I tell you!

607 posted on 03/09/2002 3:00:53 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
The UFW and their allies are opposed to any federal funding in this area. Meanwhile, the taxpayers subsidize the heath and education costs of the illegals.
608 posted on 03/09/2002 3:02:00 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: VA Advogado
Yes, when you're inside the crate of apples its easy to ignore your worms when you're surrounded by so many other with the same affliction

My "worms" are illegal immigrants---and they make it completely difficult for me to ignore them. Maybe if they would stop throwing dirty diapers in the street and spoke in English, I could ignore them.

609 posted on 03/09/2002 3:03:59 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: VA Advogado
You obviously spent a lot of time to find what? A letter written by an immigration attorney who has a stake in maintaining mass immigration for profit. Where are the quotes? So Mr. Siskind writes some report, and of course that's the truth cos he said it. I'm impressed.

Let tell you, I'm Roman Catholic and I'm not the least bit offended even if it's true. This country was founded and made great by the principles of British Protestant heritage. Like it or not, that's a fact. I thank them that they let my ancestors in. But if they want to preserve the culture they created, I don't blame them one bit. Immigration is one thing, but every nation has a right to its way of life, and the rule of law is ours, as well as speaking English. It's been said a million times to you and every other illegal alien bleeding heart, what part of illegal don't you understand?

610 posted on 03/09/2002 3:04:28 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Dane
I suppose that you believe that we need 10 million illegals to pick apples and harvest vegetables. You still haven't answered my question - what do Americans get out of the Bush amnesty?
611 posted on 03/09/2002 3:04:50 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: HennepinPrisoner
My "worms" are illegal immigrants---and they make it completely difficult for me to ignore them. Maybe if they would stop throwing dirty diapers in the street and spoke in English, I could ignore them.

Are you on drugs?

612 posted on 03/09/2002 3:05:56 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
Are you on drugs?

No, but based on all of your postings, I am willing to bet that you have had your fair share in your lifetime.

613 posted on 03/09/2002 3:09:19 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: sarcasm
If Mexicans here illegally can get an amnesty to stay in this country, can I as a US citizen get an amnesty later if I decide to stop paying my taxes? I mean, fair's fair; if Mexicans can pick and chose which of our laws they are going to obey, then so should I...
614 posted on 03/09/2002 3:09:45 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: sarcasm
I suppose that you believe that we need 10 million illegals to pick apples and harvest vegetables.

Uh the article you posted basically stated that "maybe" that 10% of the Apple crop could be totally automated. I guess it is alright with you if the whole crop rots on the trees.

615 posted on 03/09/2002 3:10:45 PM PST by Dane
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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
Sorry, amnesties only apply to illegals.
616 posted on 03/09/2002 3:11:49 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: HennepinPrisoner
No, but based on all of your postings, I am willing to bet that you have had your fair share in your lifetime

Yep, but I stopped a long time ago.

You sound like I did a long time ago, especially with your reply #609.

617 posted on 03/09/2002 3:13:51 PM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
I guess it is alright with you if the whole crop rots on the trees.

Erm..no. But Americans would be harvesting these apples if they could only get hired...problem is, we are flooding this country with cheap labor and driving wages down. Companies won't pay Americans when they know they can entice cheaper labor to make that swim across the Rio Grande.

618 posted on 03/09/2002 3:14:40 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: Dane
How many people are on welfare, Dane? Are you opposed to using them as farm labor? I'm still waiting for you to answer my question - what do Americans get out of the Bush amnesty?
619 posted on 03/09/2002 3:15:01 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: Dane
Who picks the other 90% of the crop or would you let it rot on the tree?

Yeah, that's right. Do these poor Mexican chaps a favor by letting pick your fruit for pennies on the dollar. After all, they're happy and we're happy, right? That is the condescending attitude which has, among a plethora of other problems, perpetuated the rift between Mexicans and Americans. Then they have children on our soil who grow up not understanding why their parents are treated like second class citizens when they work just as hard as any legal American. I can't blame some of them for despising us. It's not worth cheap apples.

620 posted on 03/09/2002 3:15:55 PM PST by Egg
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