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Gun control advocates bear the direct responsibility for this tragedy. Their constant moves to ban the possession of arms and their assinine insistence on making guns "fool proof" have lead to EXACTLY the kind of thing that RKBA advocates/Friends of Liberty have been predicting: Making machines more complicated under the guise of "safety" really makes them MORE dangerous. Gun safety begins between the ears of the gun owner, but trying to engineer in absolute safety can only make things more dangerous as this little episode demonstrates.
1 posted on 03/07/2002 8:42:17 AM PST by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto
I "fix" my collection of Remington 700's by completely swapping the new "safety" bolt for the old simple bolt.
2 posted on 03/07/2002 8:43:21 AM PST by 45Auto
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3 posted on 03/07/2002 8:46:57 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: 45Auto
Agreed. Of course, this incident points out the importance of a basic firearm safety rule: Don't point at anything you don't intend to shoot, regardless of whether or not your firearm is loaded. A very sad incident.
4 posted on 03/07/2002 8:48:37 AM PST by TheDon
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To: bang_list
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6 posted on 03/07/2002 8:54:54 AM PST by CONSERVE
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To: 45Auto
I don't believe for a second that gun went off without either being dropped or her accidentally pulling the trigger. I feel for the parents, but this just doesn't sound right to me. I salute Remington for checking the guns, but I have a Remington 700 and it's a great gun. Even if the gun did go off by itself, she should had the barrel pointing away from her child, preferably at the ground.
7 posted on 03/07/2002 8:55:20 AM PST by HELLRAISER II
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To: 45Auto
So let me get this straight: she was handling a loaded rifle while it was pointing at her kid?

Never trust safeties.
Guns are always assumed to be loaded
Never point a gun at anything you would be upset to see destroyed

8 posted on 03/07/2002 8:58:09 AM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: 45Auto
I like the old locking bolt on my pre 82 Remington 700 and have no intention of having it modified.

That said, I think Remington is making a mistake with this bizarre middle road compromise. If they think the bolt lock should be removed, it should be a free mod. If they don't think the bolt lock should be removed, they should not publicize the mod.

9 posted on 03/07/2002 9:00:48 AM PST by spqrzilla9
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To: 45Auto
Safety isn't a lever. It IS making sure that the muzzel is pointed in a safe direction!
11 posted on 03/07/2002 9:01:36 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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who the * is pointing a loaded rifle at their son?? Especially since she aknowledges she knew it was loaded! This woman should be tarred and feathered and run out of town. "my finger was no where near the trigger" Yeah, like I'm gonna beleive that story. This reminds me of a similar story involving certain '80's model audi stationwagons and "unintended accelleration". What a crock.
15 posted on 03/07/2002 9:10:03 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: 45Auto
I have a PSS 700 .308 I bought about a 1-1/2 years ago...maybe 2 years.

Is this subject to this? I havn't had any problems with it.

18 posted on 03/07/2002 9:18:36 AM PST by antaresequity
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and their assinine insistence on making guns "fool proof" have lead to EXACTLY the kind of thing

That is the truth

20 posted on 03/07/2002 9:21:30 AM PST by mv1
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I don't understand why remington is getting involved in this. Isn't it the owners responsibility to make repairs/modifications and to keep the rifle in proper working order? Isn't it the owners responsibility to understand the workings of ALL its parts and features? Who is responsible for proper firearm safety? The owner, or the manufacturer? Firearms should not be designed so that the stupidest and clumsiest and least careful can safely handle them.
26 posted on 03/07/2002 9:36:54 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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M-U-Z-Z-L-E C-O-N-T-R-O-L.

Clearly, here, this was not observed. Safety starts and ends between your ears.

30 posted on 03/07/2002 9:40:55 AM PST by Frohickey
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To: 45Auto
Pointing the weapon in a safe direction would have trumped any technical considerations. A safety is worthless without a safe owner/operator. My SIG has no safety but the trigger, and will never end up unintendedly killing someone.
40 posted on 03/07/2002 11:54:13 AM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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No matter who's fault it is, this has to be awful for the family. Prayers are with them.
60 posted on 03/08/2002 12:20:29 AM PST by Persuasion
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To: 45Auto
I'll stick with my Winchesters.
63 posted on 03/08/2002 3:41:59 AM PST by Wm Bach
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To: 45Auto
Gun Muzzle Control = Don't point the firearm in the direction of anyone or anything you don't want to hit.
74 posted on 03/08/2002 5:09:07 PM PST by Jagdgewehr
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To: 45Auto
and their assinine insistence on making guns "fool proof" have lead to EXACTLY the kind of thing

No matter how fool proof you make something, the human race will always generate a greater fool to un-proof it. Case in point...

78 posted on 03/12/2002 5:02:59 PM PST by Jeff Gordon
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