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To: Southack
Perhaps you meant to say that the mathematical odds of that sequence re-occurring...

Nope. I was trying to capture the essense of the "disproof" in another application. The calculation in the article is of the occurrence (not the re-occurrence) of some given sequence, is it not? The flaw in both cases is the same - some particular sequence isn't the interesting thing.

No. The mathematical odds of your sequence occuring are 1 in 1.

No, what's 100% is some sequence occurring. The likelihood of my sequence is, as I stated, virtually infinitesimal.

PS. I don't think I'm being intellectually dishonest at all, simply pointing out at least one flaw in the reasoning of the article. There are others.

646 posted on 04/08/2002 2:25:14 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: edsheppa
"Nope. I was trying to capture the essense of the "disproof" in another application. The calculation in the article is of the occurrence (not the re-occurrence) of some given sequence, is it not? The flaw in both cases is the same - some particular sequence isn't the interesting thing." - edsheppa

That's incorrect. The math for this thread specifically deals with the probability/improbability of Shakespeare's first sentence of Hamlet "To be or not to be, that is the question" re-occuring based upon various random output.

Likewise, the math can be applied to any desired result (for data, at least). If your desired result is to show the probability/improbability of bases and acids combining naturally (i.e., without intelligent aid) to create the desired result of a life form, then the math applies.

The flaw is therefore not in the examples above, but rather with your assumptions and conclusions.

647 posted on 04/08/2002 2:48:33 PM PDT by Southack
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To: edsheppa
No. The mathematical odds of your sequence occuring are 1 in 1. - Southack

"No, what's 100% is some sequence occurring. The likelihood of my sequence is, as I stated, virtually infinitesimal." - edsheppa

That's incorrect. Your sequence has already occurred. The probability for that event occurring is therefor 1 in 1.

648 posted on 04/08/2002 2:50:19 PM PDT by Southack
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