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"WHY DID HE SHOOT ME" --maimed Eagle Scout
BALTIMORE SUN ^ | March 3, 2002 | Kimberly A. C. Wilson

Posted on 03/04/2002 9:11:40 AM PST by one2many

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

An Eagle Scout who was mistaken for a bank robber and shot in the face by an FBI agent in Pasadena on Friday remained in serious but stable condition at Maryland Shock Trauma Center last night.

Joseph Charles Schultz, 20, was shot at close range about 6 p.m. Friday when FBI agents searching for a bank robbery suspect pulled over his girlfriend's car.

Schultz, who lives in the 7900 block of Seabreeze Drive in Orchard Beach in Anne Arundel County and works with fiber optics for a local medical company, has no connection to the bank robbery, officials said.


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To: Crowcreek
RE:An incident like this is not a 'mistake', or 'accident' -- It's an inexcusable and absolute f*ck-up

This stuff has happened so often it's not a mistake - it's policy.
81 posted on 03/05/2002 10:27:16 AM PST by tomakaze
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To: tomakaze
This stuff has happened so often it's not a mistake - it's policy.

Its FBI policy to shoot innocent boy scouts in the face?

82 posted on 03/05/2002 10:28:47 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: one2many
Was this the same agent who tried to shoot the baby at Ruby Ridge?
83 posted on 03/05/2002 10:30:07 AM PST by fella
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To: Squantos
RE:good FLEAS/LEOS have to cater to the likes of this that make em all look like sh*t........

Then that means they have to speak up, get loud and get the word out when they see bad crap going on.
84 posted on 03/05/2002 10:32:43 AM PST by tomakaze
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To: Mr. Bird
RE:In a completely unrelated issue, why is he dating a child?

Uh... a 16year old is hardly a child.
86 posted on 03/05/2002 10:35:44 AM PST by tomakaze
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To: fella
Might be; I understand he has a real happy trigger.
87 posted on 03/05/2002 10:36:24 AM PST by one2many
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To: alaskanfan
RE:something to do with the restructuring of this and other goverment agencies during the last administration?

...and continues under the current one.
88 posted on 03/05/2002 10:41:24 AM PST by tomakaze
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To: jwalsh07
RE:Its FBI policy to shoot innocent boy scouts in the face?

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. [/sarcasm]
89 posted on 03/05/2002 10:42:36 AM PST by tomakaze
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To: one2many; all
HOW
DID IT ALL
COME TO THIS?

Know your history.

See posts 230 and 240 here

90 posted on 03/05/2002 10:43:04 AM PST by one2many
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To: Teacher317
And the shooter will NEVER face any consequences for his reckless endangerment, his attempted manslaughter, or his unlawfully discharging a weapon.

True. If there's one thing we've learned from Ruby Ridge and Waco, it's that the federal government has a pass to murder civilians...
91 posted on 03/05/2002 10:44:41 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: lelio
Has the FBI admitted that it was an accident and not purposefully done to further the cause of Law and Goodness in this nation of Evil Sub-class Citizens?
92 posted on 03/05/2002 10:52:57 AM PST by Maelstrom
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To: editor-surveyor
Look, there are rogue cops, rogue CIA and rogue FBI.....aren't there!

Could be a leftover from the previous administration (& we all know who that is!)...

...committed this atrocity to embarrass our current FBI director & President.

Well.....couldn't it!

I'm sick of the piling on here!
....It was a horrible, awful tragedy if the facts are thus as we know them.

But there's an awful lot of knee-jerk anger on this thread!

Whatever happened to .....trust but verify!

93 posted on 03/05/2002 10:53:28 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Asclepius
we do not give out too much information

"too much " where we cannot lie our way out of the mess.

94 posted on 03/05/2002 10:55:14 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: editor-surveyor
Where is the outrage? - Why, even here on FR, are so many willing to run cover for these thugs?

It may be because it's tantamount to admitting that Libertarians are right about quite a few subjects with respect to the federal government.
95 posted on 03/05/2002 11:00:06 AM PST by Maelstrom
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To: editor-surveyor; Lurker; MarkWar
"...Where is the outrage?.."

Do you really need to ask?

It's in the medicine cabinet; on the psychiatrist's couch; in the conference committee--how many hemorrhoids should Medicare remove at taxpayer expense this year? It's in the boardroom with tiger-maple walls. It's on the couch where a flabby, flaccid, sullen, weak-eyed creature blearily blinks at the passing electrons--desperately clicking away; searching for some remotely human spark. It's buried in a pyramid of stuff composting in the garage--the sum total of the honorable man--"I make my payments on time."

So we're celebrating the 200th anniversary of Victor Hugo's birth. Big deal. He's an unrecognizable white man--a man who would be detested and mocked by most on this "conservative" forum. A fighter. A romantic--The Romantic. A Clown.

"...Listen. Think about what you are doing. One side has 100,000 men, seventeen mobile batteries, 600 cannon in the forts, and enough magazines, arsenals and munitions to fight the Russian campaign. The other side has 120 representatives, 1,000 or 1,200 patriots, 600 rifles, two cartridges a man, not a single drum for a call to arms...nor a single printer to print a declaration....Anyone who moves a cobblestone will be sentenced to death; anyone found in a secret assembly will be sentenced to death; anyone who posts a call to arm will be sentenced to death; if you are captured in combat--death. If you are taken after the fight--deportation or exile. On one side the Army and Crime. On the other a handful of men and Justice. That is the struggle. Do you accept it?

...A unanimous cry went up" "Yes, yes we accept it!"----An onsite transcription by a stenographer of an improvised Hugo speech before the French Assembly in the face of Louis Napoleon's coup d'etat-2 Decembre, 1851

A poet--the artistic blimp that presides over all of 19th century French art--and beyond--would not have understood our pale, fastidious, bloodless, keyboard Pontius Pilateness.

"...Leaving a barricade, one no longer knows what one has seen. One has been ferocious, yet one has no recollection of it. Swept up in a battle of ideas endowed with human faces, one's head has been in the light of the future. There were corpses lying down and phantoms standing up. The hours were colossal--hours of eternity. One has been living in Death. Shadows have passed. What were they? Hands with blood on them. A horrific, deafening din. An atrocious silence. Open mouths shouting; other mouths, also open, but soundless...One seems to have touched the sinister perspiration of unknown depths. There is something red under one's fingernails. One remembers nothing...."

But we are White. We have progressed beyond the open, bloody mouth of death. We send an e-mail to our congresmen.

I don't want to hear about what a clownAl Sharpton is. I don't want to hear eunuchs accusing others of being clowns--OK? Victor Hugo--an uncontested giant in human history would recognise the clownish Reverend more easily than he would his bovine racial brethren here in the Last Remaining Superpower On Earth--cough, cough, wheeze.

Black men have become White Men. White men have become titmice.

"..Catholics, like Communists, have committed great crimes. But at least they have not stood aside...and been indifferent. I would rather have blood on my hands than water, like Pilate....."

Graham Greene, The Comedians

97 posted on 03/05/2002 11:07:56 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: tomakaze ; Harpseal ; Big Ern ;Texasproud
In this day an age if they want to continue catching fish they don't rock the boat and that in and of it's self lies with those appointed above them. There's a reason that college boys and girls are in supervisory positions versus career veterans of Law Enforcement being promoted into such managerial slots. IMHO such/most colleges are socialist dens of unconstitutional BS thus they bring to LEO world new PC ideas and controls. To keep good people quiet.

But then good people (aka constitutional loving Americans) don't care when they see injustice , coverups and wrong doing.......... "they " speak up and know a little blood ,sweat, grief and tears must also be encountered even on the homefront of the fight against such crap. They try and do right anyway, no matter what the outcome for their personal or financial potential for ruin and for those few I am grateful.

For those FLEAS/LEOS who lie , cheat and violate the constitutional oath they swore upon to protect I hope they get paid back soon. For those that make an honest mistake, pay for that mistake like the average citizen would have to. If it means getting employment as a flag man on a road crew then fine , if it means doing time in prison then fine also. Their attitude of elitism above John Q. Citizen makes them no better than the criminals they are supposed to be seeking IMHO.

Sorry for the rant , but trusting a LEO "should" be the standard for all law abidding citizens. Hell I'm a former deputy and the crop of idiots being passed off as certified and commissioned these days for the better part is a friggin joke.............

Stay Safe !

99 posted on 03/05/2002 11:16:46 AM PST by Squantos
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To: one2many
Obviously it was a RACIST ATTACK by a Agent of the FBI. Who was placed in his position thru Affirmative Action.
100 posted on 03/05/2002 11:18:57 AM PST by Area51
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