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Gun Rights and Dell Computers
Newsmax ^ | 3/4/02 | Dr. Michael S. Brown

Posted on 03/04/2002 5:22:10 AM PST by FreedomWarrior

Gun Rights and Dell Computers

Dr. Michael S. Brown

March 4, 2002

Dell Computer Corporation has been riding high lately with an advertising campaign based on the slogan "Dude, get a Dell!" Last week, Dell stumbled into a confrontation with American gun rights activists that illustrates interesting changes in the nature of that community.

Millions of politically active gun owners are now linked via a sprawling and unorganized network of Web sites and e-mail distribution lists. Valid information and rumors both propagate at light speed. On Feb. 26, an e-mail spread through the network like wildfire.

Jack Weigand is a highly respected Pennsylvania gunsmith and president of the American Pistolsmiths Guild. He sent out a message describing his unpleasant encounter with Dell.

He reported that Dell canceled his order for a laptop computer because the name of his business, Weigand Combat Handguns, suggested that he might be planning to use the computer for criminal purposes. They also rudely neglected to inform him of the cancellation.

Stories like this are a serious hot-button issue for gun owners, who are sick and tired of being demonized for the last couple of decades. Connectivity, computer skills and hard feelings are a potent combination. Within hours, Dell was inundated with hostile e-mails and phone calls.

Dell's damage control team moved quickly. An apology from Dell was forthcoming on Feb. 28, but not before angry net-gunnies were further incensed by the discovery that Dell was listed on an obscure Web site that allows Dell customers to donate a portion of their payment to Handgun Control Inc.

Dell's rather lame apology claimed that its cancellation of Mr. Weigand's laptop order was a misunderstanding motivated by its desire to comply with federal export laws designed to keep high technology from falling into the hands of terrorists.

The company offered Weigand a free computer, which he respectfully declined.

There is no way to know how much this fiasco cost Dell, but it has provided an unexpected windfall for a flamboyant computer retailer in Utah. Dell Shanze, owner of Totally Awesome Computers (totallyawesome.com) received plenty of free publicity when his gun-owning customers posted their praise of his pro-gun policies.

Millions of gun owners now know that Dell Shanze, affectionately and ironically known as "SUPERDELL," encourages his employees to carry their lawfully owned handguns on the job in his nine retail stores.

In an e-mail interview, Shanze recounted his background on gun matters. It seems that he once bought a shipping and packaging store that had been robbed three times. (No doubt he got it at a good price.) He carried a gun openly on his hip and never had another robbery attempt. Even though he no longer owns that store, it still remains unmolested by criminals.

He explained that his philosophy is based on his own experience: "Good guys with guns are legendary in the minds of bad guys and just a rumor of an armed business owner will prevent the vast majority of any robbery attempts." None of his stores has ever been robbed.

As if this weren't enough to earn the loyalty of computer-savvy gun owners, he also offers $100 off any computer purchase if the customer will bring in their handgun and concealed weapon permit. Out-of-state purchasers can simply fax their permits. Many gun owners are now saying, "Dude, get a SUPERDELL!"

Corporate managers should take note and avoid repeating past errors. Any sign of prejudice against lawful gun owners now risks a confrontation with millions of net-wired activists.

Dr. Michael S. Brown is an optometrist and member of Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws, www.dsgl.org. His e-mail address is rkba2000@yahoo.com and he is not affiliated with any company mentioned in this column.

References:

"Dude, Don't Get a Dell" http://www.sierratimes.com/02/02/27/arjw022702.htm

Jack Weigand http://www.jackweigand.com/Dell.html

SUPERDELL http://www.totallyawesome.com/

Dell Computer Corp. http://www.dell.com


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To: Harrison Bergeron
That's a legitimate concern on Dell's part. The International Trade in Arms regulations could be used against them.

You know, I have to wonder how likely it is that an arms-smuggling front company set up by bin Laden or the Iraqis would have the words "Combat Handguns" in its name. Probably it is on a par with the likelihood of a well-organized and well-financed terrorist buying a one-way airline ticket with cash.

This kind of thing is just a show for the sheeple so bureaucrats and corporate PR people can say they are doing something to fight terrorism. Dell would do a lot more for this cause by refusing to sell to any Muslim group or country, just as we could dramatically enhance airline security by giving young Muslim men the El Al treatment every time they got on the plane, and leaving the grandmas from Duluth alone. But alas, we are a nation of cowards and appeasers and moral retards.

-ccm

41 posted on 03/04/2002 9:38:07 AM PST by ccmay
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To: Joe Brower
BTTT!
42 posted on 03/04/2002 9:45:11 AM PST by betty boop
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To: ccmay
See post 37. Nobody said it was right or fair. It's just the way it is.
43 posted on 03/04/2002 9:45:35 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Registered
LOL

Almost exactly what I envisioning. You have an enviable talent for turning thoughts into pictures.

44 posted on 03/04/2002 9:48:36 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: Harrison Bergeron
I'll take your word for it since the only ITAR I know is a Russian new agency. I'll bet that arms dealers (foreign and domestic) are intimately aware of its requirements though. So why would one of them openly advertise the nature of their business so blatantly? The requirement is absurd in its own right. The application to a domestic business is even more absurd.

Since it now looks like its going to cost real money, my guess is the Dell people are making the same point to the Commerce Department right about now.

45 posted on 03/04/2002 9:56:53 AM PST by anothergrunt
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To: anothergrunt
There are a half a million or so shipping containers on American loading docks on any given day. Inspecting them all is simply not an option unless we're willing to set up a soviet style bureaucracy with all of the cemmensurate delays and corruptions. Requiring businesses to comply with a regulatory system of paying attention to customer destinations and declaring international weapons shipments - agreeing not to ship to non-friendly nations - is how a good and free society operates. Dell wasn't paying attention, but they erred on the right side.

Terrorism could very possiby force us to implement that soviet style inspection system. It's already happening in the passenger transport business. If it happens in the freight business, the economy could very well collapse. This is why we must crush terrorism, lest our entire system of freedoms become compromised beyond recognition.

46 posted on 03/04/2002 10:12:43 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: ccmay
My response to Dell follows: I can certainly understand how mistakes are made, but I have a problem with your logic. If someone sends you an order from Osama bin Ladens Plutonium and Nuclear Missile plant you will do further investigation, but if you get one from Osama bin Laden Day Care and Dog Grooming, you will not. This is as ludicrous as believing criminals turn in guns when they are no longer deemed legal. Criminals (with the exception of motorcycle gangs) do not advertise that they are criminals.
47 posted on 03/04/2002 10:17:16 AM PST by Probus
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To: Harrison Bergeron
It appears that Dell is guilty of not much more than a boneheaded mistake.

Wrong. They have stated in the letter posted above (#5) that they "are neutral on the gun issue". I wonder just how neutral they are on the rest of the Bill of Rights. Are they "neutral" on the 1st Amendment? I think not.

No, the jerks in Dell management are guilty of the same kind of "selective" rights nonsense as the rest of the socialist/liberal/demoRAT cabal - that the Constitution can mean any damn thing THEY want it to mean at any given moment, hence it means nothing at all. As an American citizen, for me, its the whole Bill of Rights all the time, or its a fight! I no longer consider these fools just to be "the loyal opposition"; they are either for freedom or they are the enemies of freedom.

48 posted on 03/04/2002 10:56:36 AM PST by 45Auto
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To: Redbob
D*mn right we are! We're slowy learning that confrontational tactics like that get results, and that's what we've got to do to advance our agendas. Lead, follow, or get out of the way

Damn straight. Its no longer going to be "the gentlemen's way" or the Marquis of Queensbury Rules"; over the past 10 years I have seen nothing but the steady erosion of the RKBA, especially in California. During the same time, I have seen all of my "polite" correspondence to my "elected serpents" come to no avail. No more Mr Nice guy. These people are enemies of freedom and hence should be treated as the traitors they are. The first point of "treatment" is in their wallets.

49 posted on 03/04/2002 11:01:33 AM PST by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto
Uh huh. Dell should stop doing business with all who support gun grabbing causes. Hell, all right thinking corporations should refuse to do business with liberals, period. That would fix everything. OK.
51 posted on 03/04/2002 11:05:18 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Sender
If Dell is "neutral" on my 2nd Amendment right to self-defense and gun ownership (earned for me by the blood sacrifices of my patriot predecessors), then Dell is dogmeat. Not only can I buy a comparable computer from anybody else, I can do it cheaper, faster, and more conveniently. Dude, I ain't gettin' a Dell, and Dell can go to striaght to HELL.
52 posted on 03/04/2002 11:06:08 AM PST by rebelsoldier
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To: Harrison Bergeron
It has nothing to do with doing business with liberals or not. It has to do with a company trying to cover its a** from what appears to be an obvious conscious decision by some low-level PC type in the order department NOT to do business with Mr. Weigand solely because he was in the gun business.
53 posted on 03/04/2002 12:08:03 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: Harrison Bergeron
What would have happened if Dell had refused to sell a unit to a customer simply because he was black?
54 posted on 03/04/2002 12:16:47 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: Redbob
Redbob said: 'What other Constitutional rights do you suppose Dell is "neutral" on? How about freedom of speech and of religion? How about the 4th Amendment? Slavery: do you suppose they're 'neutral' on slavery?"

Dell may have the misfortune to have angered gun-owners at just the wrong time. Perhaps it is not too early in the Second American Civil War to insist that Dell explicitly state their support for the Second Amendment. Eventually, that will be the price for citizenship in the new Union. You know... the one which uses the old Constitution.

55 posted on 03/04/2002 2:02:02 PM PST by William Tell
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To: anothergrunt
That reply by Dell was arrogant and insulting to all who questioned their motives. The word "combat"? give me a break!

Get THIS dude, I'm not buying a Dell. I will not even sell my S&Ws for fear of taking a $ away from a legitimate company. Saddle-up folks, these people are for real and we must be also.

56 posted on 03/04/2002 2:45:52 PM PST by flicker
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To: FreedomWarrior
A question for Dell...

Why would you assume that a gun onwer might do something illegal with a computer and not assume that a non-gun owner might do something illegal with a computer? (like download kiddie porn)

Does Dell really want to admit culpability for that which purchasers do with their computers?

57 posted on 03/04/2002 2:51:59 PM PST by copycat
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To: Redbob
Two Athlon computers together? Don't you call that a "Biathlon"?

It's a dual-processor system, which I guess in itself you could call a biathlon. Very cute.

The point is that AMD makes a version of the Athlon XP called the MP that's specially suited for multiprocessor systems (actually, the XP is based on the MP, but that's a long story).

58 posted on 03/04/2002 10:34:41 PM PST by Quila
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To: Redbob
Sounds like they gave him a free computer, right? Wrong! Mr. Weigand refused the 'bribe'.

When any company screws up, either by process or by manufacturing, it's standard practice to give a "make-good" as they say in the publishing industry. They come in the form of, for example, coupons for several free boxes of cereal because you found spun plastic in your mini-wheats (left over from the manufacturing process -- happened to me), or a discount on a product where the purchase was screwed up.

That they actually offered an entire free notebook shows they know the seriousness of their mistake and admit it.

Aside from that, the aforementioned "If you're not for us, you're against us" Jesse Jackson blackmail attitude here is starting to disappoint me.

59 posted on 03/04/2002 10:42:23 PM PST by Quila
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To: FreedomWarrior
I first saw this article on the .50 cal shooters website I go to.  I really liked that the guy from Totally Awesome computers was strongly pro-second amendment.  I liked it so much, I thought I'd send him an email telling him so.

Well I never expected to get a response, and I certainly didn't expect to get a response from the owner himself but I did.  Turns out he just bought a .50 cal as well.  I guess I don't have to tell you who's computers I'll be recommending from now on.

Here's the emails.

 

Dell,

I was checking in on my .50 cal shooters website today and read a post about a Newsmax article that mentioned you and your company. 

I did not know that you and your company were so pro-second amendment, but I'm sure glad you are. Because of your support of our rights, the next time I need a computer I will be buying it from you. I will also recommend your computers to anyone I know who is in the market for one. Thanks for standing up and being one of the good guys. 

If you're ever in Austin, Texas let me know and we'll take you out shooting .50 cals!

Sincerely,

Bob Sharp

 

 

Howdy fine sir,

Thanks for your support. We won’t let you down. Thanks for reminding me about the .50!! I just got my new McMillan in and haven’t even shot it yet. Now that is sad. Let me know when you are ready for a system. Ours rock!!!

Sincerely, SUPERDELL

 

60 posted on 03/06/2002 8:12:58 PM PST by FatherTorque
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