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Breaking Report: IAF jets bomb Ramallah targets
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 3/3/02 | The Jerusalem Post

Posted on 03/03/2002 1:14:39 AM PST by Gorons

Report: IAF jets bomb Ramallah targets

Israeli Air Forces F-16 jets are bombing Palestinian Authority police headquarters in Ramallah at this hour, according to Palestinian sources.

The sources also said helicopters fired rockets at offices adjacent to PA Chairman Yasser Arafat's compound.

Elsewhere, IDF tanks shelled the PA's General Intelligence Service headquarters in the West Bank village of Salfit earlier this morning, Israel Radio reported.

There are no reports of Palestinian casualties in either strike.

The shelling and air raid come in the wake of this morning's lethal shooting attacks on a civilian convoy and soldiers at an army roadblock near Salfit, as well as another deadly shooting attack in the Gaza Strip.

Nine Israelis were killed - seven soldiers and two civilians - and at least six are wounded after Palestinians opened fire at the roadblock, close to the Samaria community of Ofra.

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One Israeli was killed and four wounded, one light to moderately and three lightly, in the Gaza attack.

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To: wretchard
The American calls for forbearance are heeded by Israel because they are really calls for coordinated timing: hold your fire until the time is right.

You lead a rich fantasy life.

There is no "coordination" of anything. Israel's doing what it feels it must do in its own interests, and the U.S. is doing what it believes is right.

You types are so caught up in this Heroic Myth of Israel that you aren't even noticing reality.

41 posted on 03/03/2002 5:06:01 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Don't forget the 700,000 Chinese troops in the Sudan!
42 posted on 03/03/2002 5:07:46 AM PST by Mr.Clark
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To: wretchard
I think you've got it right. The Allied (US, UK, Australia, Canada, Israel, Turkey) war plans are already in motion in the Persian Gulf/Eastern Med front. The Afghan/Pakistan/India front is a real wild card. Religious/ethnic violence is actually much worse there in terms of absolute numbers of deaths than in Israel.

If anyone doubts this is a religous/ethnic war, look at the combatants. On the Allied side all Judeo-Christian nations, except for Turkey which threw off the moslem yoke decades ago and joined the modern world decades ago. Indian (Hindu) also has some big beefs with the moslems but is not nominally an ally. On the other side, the moslems. For some reason they can't get along with the Christians, the Hindus or the Jews. Such a peaceful religion. I wonder if it will survive this crusade?

43 posted on 03/03/2002 5:09:49 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian
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To: wretchard
I'm also tired of this "measured response" crap. It accomplishes absolutely nothing. If anything, it only emboldens the Palestinians to continue what they are doing because they outnumber the Jews and right now, the kill ratio is heavily in their favor. It is time for Israel to launch a full-scale, all-out war.
44 posted on 03/03/2002 5:14:37 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: cake_crumb
"Reaction" to the occupation my foot. The braindead news media is 99 percent of the problem in Israel...and the various terrorist groups comprise the OTHER 99 percent.

That's Ashwari's words. I didn't hear even a whisper of "oh, I'm so sorry babies died in the terrorist attack." (Of course she couldn't condemn the terrorist attack--she works for the same outfit that ordered it.) She babbled on about The Occupation, it's the fault of the Israelis, blah blah blah. I was going to tape it, but it wasn't worth the effort. Just play "The Greatest Hits of Hannan Ashwari" and you've got the same song being played over & over.

45 posted on 03/03/2002 5:15:52 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Gorons
Israeli Air Forces F-16 jets are bombing Palestinian Authority police headquarters in Ramallah at this hour, according to Palestinian sources.

I guess PM Sharon was watching the same crowd on TV that I saw, terrorists with weapons cheering the deaths of Israeli infants coming home from shul.

46 posted on 03/03/2002 5:25:27 AM PST by a_witness
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To: Illbay
It is the Truth of their history! They should drive the arabs out of all of their country.
47 posted on 03/03/2002 5:25:44 AM PST by GregB
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To: Illbay
Don't forget: With some people reality is something to deny.
48 posted on 03/03/2002 5:27:21 AM PST by lavrenti
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To: Illbay
There is no "coordination" of anything.

Right, keep telling your massa that ok? Toda! (thanks)

49 posted on 03/03/2002 5:47:01 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Two hours. Artilery is so... disruptive... -grin- Caught some zzzz'z this after noon. Streets are very quiet, very somber mood.
50 posted on 03/03/2002 5:49:31 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: xJones
And now Muslim children are being taught the same hatred in Muslim schools here in the US. Only now I would guess they are being taught to hate us. Add this to the Aztlan reconquista movement and in twenty yers we should be able to look forward to the same fun and games the Israelis enjoy. Go for it GW, bring in a few million more voters for the Dem party.
51 posted on 03/03/2002 6:10:47 AM PST by willyone
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To: flaglady47
Bibi is a telegenetic clown. What they need is someone like Avigdor Lieberman. But they will never put a Russian in there.
52 posted on 03/03/2002 6:19:50 AM PST by Brusensky
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To: xJones
Do they hope for jihad, Muslims against non-Muslims in a big showdown? What's their game, or are they so rabid they don't really have one except to kill, kill, kill?

Ok, you asked for my opinion, and this is it. Keep in mind I did not get much sleep last night, so it is not edited for Political Correctness. After the artillery serenade last night I am not feeling too PC anyway.

Arafat keeps driving for the Jihad. I am sure the Palestinians are all pissed off about what ever is the last goad Arafat stuck them with. Kill, kill, kill about sums it up. They do expect a big showdown, they expect Satan to pull it off for them in the end. On the way there, death in the cause is the only path to heaven. In the Moslem mind there is no atonement for sin, there is a balance. Getting "martyred" for God is a get out of jail free card. I hear it is 72 virgins now and you get to take the family members of your choice with you. Heaven is a place with trays of food overflowing, streams of honey and wine (wine somehow becoming holy instead of a sin. And the sex is great because the women all regrow hymens. No need for relationships, you can leave out the mother-in-law and with 72 girls who needs to talk? Obviously a man wrote the script. But then no one questions that Mohammad was a man.

A very shallow and simplistic religious cult, that demands loyalty to the priests, and rape and pillage for the targets of the priests as a holy thing. Just the thing to spring on a bunch of ignorant savages hanging out in the dessert as bandits. Who would have thought it would be a best seller? Know why the Taliban banned TV sets? They say it was because man was making machines that sent signals into the realm of God. Of course their radios they control their troops with do that but why mess up a good thing. Can't have the slaves realizing just how screwed they have it can we...

But lucky for the Imams, the slaves are kept very dumb. When they were Jewish citizens, they had social services, free schools, free hospital care, and $10,000 bucks a year average wage, 5 times what they have now. Now the schools are mandatory, the kids are taught to be bombs. Most kids classes are over at the sixth grade. At that age it is time to work the fields for dad. You can however get free torture if you say anything bad about someone in power, and you can still sneak over to the Jewish hospitals if you get wounded. However the Benefits of Arafat! $2000 bucks if your kid looses a leg, $10,000 if your kid gets blown up. Such a deal... All you have to do to keep in the local graces is show up at a funeral and rant and rave. Why no one even has to work anymore, which is handy because there are no industries. And you do not have to pay sewage, just pump it out on the street. It is so much closer to the "real life" of the 6th century. The "Holy" life, when if you wanted something you just stole it from an infidel, and if you needed cash you just tapped the nearest dhimmi for protection money. Of course you have to be careful just which Dhimmi you tap, the hardest working ones are under the protection of the PA Police, Don't want to be caught milking the "big guys" cows...

They are nothing but expendable Arabs, Palestinians, the scum of the Arab world. (This I got from other Arabs). Trash them, start a war and the survivors get the booty. Israel is a very prime chunk of booty in the middle of thousands of miles of Islamic Desolation. After you have milked the cow to death, not much to do but sit around and bang rocks together for entertainment. Or find a new cow of course. One of the most exciting developments in modern history for the Arab nations is the neutron bomb. The magic wand of treasure. You get to kill all the dhimmi's and leave the treasure. Must be salivating.

Ok so this is an ugly picture, but I am too tired to try to paint it better. I guess Mark Twains description of the men sitting around on the front porch smoking hashish while the women banged on the ground with wooden tools in the garden trying to scrape together enough to feed the men and still have enough left over when they were done to feed the children and yourself with the scraps describes it best. Islamic heaven on earth. The goal of the civilization of the Koran. Sit on your ass and make others do your work, while pumping yourself up on how holy you are. Don't quite cut it for me.

53 posted on 03/03/2002 6:21:25 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
Have you thought of running for Prime Minister? (Just kidding--you are too smart to want that job).

Sharon and Bibi are both failures. We need someone new, someone with different ideas than the same old same old. Nathan Sharansky is my man. And now Shas has a dog in the fight (it was their people that got snuffed last night), so put Eli Yishai in there right behind Nathan. Out with the old!

54 posted on 03/03/2002 6:26:39 AM PST by Alouette
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To: American in Israel
Sheesh that is a dark picture! The other side of the coin is the poor non Islamic Arabs trapped under Arafat’s thumb. They have no aspirations to be Mr Holier than Thou, they just want to feed their kids. They all have to pay dhimmi taxes too. Especially the Christians. They work pretty hard, trying to raise a family under the mafia's thumb. And the Mafia grows pretty fast. Your choice is pay protection money, work your ass off and hope to survive, and that no-one takes a fancy to your wife or daughter, or become a Moslem and retire working for "the family" and have automatic protection. There are some mighty fine Arabs over on the other side of the fence, some of them I know personally. They, like us on this side of the fence hope Arafat magically go away. I does not take an IQ much over a box of rocks to see that Arafat is driving this buggy over the cliff. They have little hope. It is pretty hard to help them, because now to go there for me is to die. I have an American passport. The only way I can get there is be part of some media circus showing how nice Arafat is. Then I will be treated like a king, for the cameras. Step outside the dotted line and I get my arms broken. I don't want to play thank you. Plenty of leftists line up to play circus. They like that.

I am worried big time about the Arabs, the Islamic’s will feed them to the lions of war and move on. Most of them come from Iran, Iraq, and Syria anyway. Terrorists do not have a home country, at least not officially. They are all from “Palestine”, ask them where Palestine is and Palestine is everywhere. Most just say from the river to the sea, ask them what river and what sea and they just grin.

55 posted on 03/03/2002 6:32:34 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
The goal of the civilization of the Koran. Sit on your ass and make others do your work, while pumping yourself up on how holy you are. Don't quite cut it for me.

Pretty well describes the Arab Islamic mindset. The Arab Islamics engaged in successive razzias over this area and by the 19th century it was largely barren until the Jews brought life back to their ancient homeland. The Arab Islamics would like to return the land to a barren desert just like where their real home is in the Arabian peninsula and other Arab Islamic hell-holes.

56 posted on 03/03/2002 6:37:48 AM PST by Lent
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To: American in Israel
So what is the end of this? Ehud just said three more years of the war of attrition and they will end up implementing his and Clinton's plan anyway: meanind "two states".
57 posted on 03/03/2002 6:41:25 AM PST by Brusensky
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To: American in Israel
On Islam. In order to understand why's and what’s about Islam one has to look up at the history and the core of the religions. We have Christianity and Judaism. Call it Judeo- Christianity, if you will. The basis of Judeo-Christianity is all around the revelation of God to Abraham/Moses/David/John/Jesus/Paul. The message is best put by the Beatles: lift up yourself. On a more serious note, the vector of the Judeo-Christian values is inward. Remember Jesus preaching to the crowds on the mountain in Gallely? Remember David's Psalms? Cries of John the Baptist. It is all inward. Improve yourself, teach the others. If they do not care - leave them alone: God will judge. Yes, someone can argue, there were the brutal Jewish conquests of Canaan, Crusaders etc. Yes, but those were deviations from the teachings of the Tora or the Bible, and not the ORGANIC PART of it. Now, to Mr. Mohammed of the Arab tribe of Hashem. The end of 6th century AD. This apocalyptic, weak bodied fellow with an immense hatred towards his uncles, who thought the young Mohammed was possessed by Gins (demons), had something on his mind. These were two things: unification of the multitude of the Arab tribes, and, yes, conquest of the world. The fellow, being a brilliant political strategist, discovered that the best way for his political goals would be some kind of monotheistic religion. He turned towards the Jews (they ruled in next town over to Mecca, called Medina), but found out they were too tribal, besides the rabbis laughed at him and called him bad words. He would never forget this. The Christians were bunch of peacenicks and with their message he couldn’’t go too far either. At this juncture, Mohammed, already a prosperous businessman, decided to ENGINEER a NEW religion. This new religion he called Islam. To make it more believable to people around him, he takes a lot of stuff from the Bible, tells everybody that no more no less than Archangel Gabriel visits him and dictates a pure word of God (Allah) which he, Mohammed, the last and ultimate Prophet puts down in a book called Koran. In 1848 Karl Marx wrote his Manifest of the Communist Party. This was the basic manual for action of the millions of his followers for hundred plus years since. So was the Koran. Mohammed was instrumental in unifying the Arab tribes, Khalifs after him conquered the World (at least darn good chunk of it). The message of the religion of peace, Islam, is not really peace at ALL. Do not compare the Koran and message there with what you find in a Gospel. Everything, the approach to an individual, free choice, will of God, etc. is different in Islam. The vector is outward. You're are nothing in Islam, but a PART of a bigger entity, your path in life is already written by faith, the greatest honour is to give your life to that greater entity, hence to Allah... Anyway, if one had a set of some magic glasses and looked through them on our Bible, he would read one word: LOVE. Not so with Koran, not so. The word would be CONQUEST, and that's it. This is why, my friend, there is no such thing as a RADICAL Islam... There is just Islam, evil at the core, a sling-shot waiting for the right circumstance to be released and give you either a black eye, or .... an ultimate peace.
58 posted on 03/03/2002 6:56:57 AM PST by Brusensky
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To: Catspaw
The Nehmad family: The father Shlomo, 40, mother Gafnit, 32, Shiraz, seven, and Liran, three, from Rishon Lezion.

The whole family??? Sweet Lord, what a terrible shame...what an atrocity! This has got to stop. These animals must be put down.

59 posted on 03/03/2002 7:06:25 AM PST by pgkdan
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