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To: American in Israel
Sheesh that is a dark picture! The other side of the coin is the poor non Islamic Arabs trapped under Arafat’s thumb. They have no aspirations to be Mr Holier than Thou, they just want to feed their kids. They all have to pay dhimmi taxes too. Especially the Christians. They work pretty hard, trying to raise a family under the mafia's thumb. And the Mafia grows pretty fast. Your choice is pay protection money, work your ass off and hope to survive, and that no-one takes a fancy to your wife or daughter, or become a Moslem and retire working for "the family" and have automatic protection. There are some mighty fine Arabs over on the other side of the fence, some of them I know personally. They, like us on this side of the fence hope Arafat magically go away. I does not take an IQ much over a box of rocks to see that Arafat is driving this buggy over the cliff. They have little hope. It is pretty hard to help them, because now to go there for me is to die. I have an American passport. The only way I can get there is be part of some media circus showing how nice Arafat is. Then I will be treated like a king, for the cameras. Step outside the dotted line and I get my arms broken. I don't want to play thank you. Plenty of leftists line up to play circus. They like that.

I am worried big time about the Arabs, the Islamic’s will feed them to the lions of war and move on. Most of them come from Iran, Iraq, and Syria anyway. Terrorists do not have a home country, at least not officially. They are all from “Palestine”, ask them where Palestine is and Palestine is everywhere. Most just say from the river to the sea, ask them what river and what sea and they just grin.

55 posted on 03/03/2002 6:32:34 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
So what is the end of this? Ehud just said three more years of the war of attrition and they will end up implementing his and Clinton's plan anyway: meanind "two states".
57 posted on 03/03/2002 6:41:25 AM PST by Brusensky
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To: American in Israel
On Islam. In order to understand why's and what’s about Islam one has to look up at the history and the core of the religions. We have Christianity and Judaism. Call it Judeo- Christianity, if you will. The basis of Judeo-Christianity is all around the revelation of God to Abraham/Moses/David/John/Jesus/Paul. The message is best put by the Beatles: lift up yourself. On a more serious note, the vector of the Judeo-Christian values is inward. Remember Jesus preaching to the crowds on the mountain in Gallely? Remember David's Psalms? Cries of John the Baptist. It is all inward. Improve yourself, teach the others. If they do not care - leave them alone: God will judge. Yes, someone can argue, there were the brutal Jewish conquests of Canaan, Crusaders etc. Yes, but those were deviations from the teachings of the Tora or the Bible, and not the ORGANIC PART of it. Now, to Mr. Mohammed of the Arab tribe of Hashem. The end of 6th century AD. This apocalyptic, weak bodied fellow with an immense hatred towards his uncles, who thought the young Mohammed was possessed by Gins (demons), had something on his mind. These were two things: unification of the multitude of the Arab tribes, and, yes, conquest of the world. The fellow, being a brilliant political strategist, discovered that the best way for his political goals would be some kind of monotheistic religion. He turned towards the Jews (they ruled in next town over to Mecca, called Medina), but found out they were too tribal, besides the rabbis laughed at him and called him bad words. He would never forget this. The Christians were bunch of peacenicks and with their message he couldn’’t go too far either. At this juncture, Mohammed, already a prosperous businessman, decided to ENGINEER a NEW religion. This new religion he called Islam. To make it more believable to people around him, he takes a lot of stuff from the Bible, tells everybody that no more no less than Archangel Gabriel visits him and dictates a pure word of God (Allah) which he, Mohammed, the last and ultimate Prophet puts down in a book called Koran. In 1848 Karl Marx wrote his Manifest of the Communist Party. This was the basic manual for action of the millions of his followers for hundred plus years since. So was the Koran. Mohammed was instrumental in unifying the Arab tribes, Khalifs after him conquered the World (at least darn good chunk of it). The message of the religion of peace, Islam, is not really peace at ALL. Do not compare the Koran and message there with what you find in a Gospel. Everything, the approach to an individual, free choice, will of God, etc. is different in Islam. The vector is outward. You're are nothing in Islam, but a PART of a bigger entity, your path in life is already written by faith, the greatest honour is to give your life to that greater entity, hence to Allah... Anyway, if one had a set of some magic glasses and looked through them on our Bible, he would read one word: LOVE. Not so with Koran, not so. The word would be CONQUEST, and that's it. This is why, my friend, there is no such thing as a RADICAL Islam... There is just Islam, evil at the core, a sling-shot waiting for the right circumstance to be released and give you either a black eye, or .... an ultimate peace.
58 posted on 03/03/2002 6:56:57 AM PST by Brusensky
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