Nixon, Billy Graham on tape expressing anti-semitism

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[Newz Beagle]

Nixon, Graham anti-Semitism on tape President, pastor recorded views in 1972 meeting click on link above.... ...

[VinnyTex]

fraid not. sick and tired of whining Jews lookin for anti-semitism under every rock. You didnt answer my question. Can you name one movie in the past 20yrs that has put a favorable spin on Christianity.

[a_witness]

The is not an anti-semetic statement. Are there not customs and laws in Israel that support that staement? Is a marrage between a Jew and a non-Jew recognized in Israel? What's the verdict. You can't quote me because I haven't said it. The hypocracy is baffling.

Your concerns are about religion, not race. Jews come to Israel from (almost) every nation under heaven.

Why not explain why you personally hate Israel with every fiber of your being ?

[AppyPappy]

The same people who decry the cry of "anti semiticism" are the same claiming "the Jews control Hollywood". If the owners of the Pittsburg Steel Mills happened to be Lutheran, Would the Lutherans control the steel business?

[VinnyTex]

don't hate Jews. I don't like what liberal jews have done to the culture of this country though.

[AppyPappy]

But you aren't tired of people whining about Jews behind every movie?

[AppyPappy]

Do you like what liberal atheists have done to this country? How about liberal Christians as Clinton claims to be? Are they OK?

[a_witness]

don't hate Jews. I don't like what liberal jews have done to the culture of this country though.

Yes, you do. It is evident in all your comments. Why not just get it all out in the open and off your chest ?

I still don't understand why you care about the religious aspect of it so much since your language indicates your don't really practice the spiritual side of it.

Where did you learn to hate the Jews so much ?

[Catspaw]

Please name the Jews that control the media. Follow that by a list of the Jews that control the banking system, for I'm sure that's next. And give me your sources, please.

[a_witness]

I don't.

I suppose you are adopting the advice Nixon gave Graham. "Don't let them know." It doesn't quite work once you've already given yourself away.

[Marysecretary]

Nah, AppyPappy! It came from apes in Africa. Doesn't everyone know that? (smile)

[wardaddy]

I have never said Jews do control Hollywood. I do think they have disproportionate influence there and tend to be liberal but there are liberal atheists and Christians in Hollywood as well. You can't deny some of them insert their own propoganda into their films. Take "Saving Private Ryan"...it's littered with Jewish symbols and allegory and metaphor...a great movie and it was Speilbergs to do with as he wished but one can't deny he toyed with the Jewish aspects. I wish all Hollywood Jews were Michael Medved clones but they aren't. I fear most are Jewish in name only.

There is one place I wish Jews did control. It's called Israel. After that last suicide bombing, I'm about ready to go enlist in the IDF myself. I have close friends in Tel Aviv and I am sick to death of these damn Palis...time to "Let's Roll" over there. They need BiBi and badly.

Ok, now I've been critical of some Jews and sympathetic to others. Am I anti-semitic or more correctly anit-Jewish?

Not in my opinion.

[Steve_Seattle]

How many people would survive a public airing of their private phone conversations? I don't think I would, or Dan Rather, or Hillary Clinton, or Jesse Jackson, or Peter Jennings, or George Bush, or hardly anyone. In other words, this is not news. Almost everyone says something they later regret, something patently stupid, bigoted, or mean. What matters most is not our momentary failures but the general pattern of our life. As some guy said a long time ago, "Let he who is without sin cast the firsr stone."

[First_Salute]

" ... Would the Lutherans control the steel business?"

In the mind of the leftists, yes; but they wouldn't trouble themselves with such distinctions, and would instead merely decry the "religious right" ... lumping all Christians into the same "vast conspiracy."

But setting that aside, another answer is that many people could make that particular "Pittsburgh" steel mill out to be "Lutheran."

However, your question did not include the occurence in the population of steel plants' managements, nor in the workforces --- together, "the participants" --- of Lutherans ... which occurence you also did not pose in contrast to society, as being very disproportionate. So, in answer to your supposition: No.

[Recovering_Democrat]

In response to posts 43 and 52:

Horse dung. Do you believe all that you read, especially the first time, in a press that is, by even their own admission, anti-religion anyway? Neither one of you have listened to the tape in the context of the time, place, setting or in its entirety.

OTOH, you have the public words and actions of the man for 40 or 50 years ongoing. You cannot point to a single instance of anti-Semitic behavior or rhetoric. Yet you find this one instance as an incredible window into a man's attitude about an entire race of people. That isn't only illogical, it is idiocy.

When you have a pattern of behavior (see: Bill Clinton), one might make an argument. You don't have that with Reverend Graham. You've got one instance of one conversation on one tape in an 83-year lifetime...and you haven't even got the context in which that conversation occurred? The vast stupidity of inferring one is anti-Semite from that miniscule boggles the mind.

[Justin Raimondo]

"My father thought "All In The Family" was a documentary."

(((chuckle))) Hey, mine too!

[Jeremiah Jr]

Scholars surprised

"I find this rather stunning," said William Martin, a professor of religion and sociology at Rice University in Houston

Famous last words, "I find this rather stunning,"

Got 'Left Behind' on the bookshelf?

[wardaddy]

fraid not. sick and tired of whining Jews lookin for anti-semitism under every rock. You didnt answer my question. Can you name one movie in the past 20yrs that has put a favorable spin on Christianity.

I thought O'Brother was ok. They lampooned the Klan and all the other negative Southern stuff (and being from Miss. I was highly sensitive) but I thought the Baptismal scene in the river was beautiful...the whole movie was a bit wry but for a Cohen Bros. movie ...they're Jews I assume...I thought it was not too shabby. I was suprised.

One of the worst flicks about Chrisitanity recently was Dogma....unfortunately courtesy of some Catholic ne'er do wells I think.

I understand your position but I think if you refined your argument a bit you'd maybe find less resistance. I think Hollywood and most of the media are hostile to the great Myth that is called Christian Conservatism in general.

[Godfollow]

I knew it... B Grahm is just a man after all. Seems like everybody in this ol' world is tainted don't it. Ain't they no one we can worship anymore... uum, uum, uum.

[a_witness]

Your problem is the lack of moral courage and conviction. You are perfectly willing to condemn Mr. Clinton for conversations reported to be on tape but unwilling to do so for someone you otherwise consider to be your home team.

I abhor hypocrisy.

Mr. Graham's behavior with Mr. Nixon is inexcusable. He was supposed to be a minister of the LORD, in case you have forgotten which team he thought he was on. He should be rebuked for moral cowardice in not standing up to Mr. Nixon.