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Nixon, Billy Graham on tape expressing anti-semitism
Chicago Tribune ^

Posted on 03/01/2002 10:04:35 AM PST by Newz Beagle

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Nixon, Graham anti-Semitism on tape President, pastor recorded views in 1972 meeting click on link above.... ...

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Comment #81 Removed by Moderator

To: a_witness
Okay, so you have no problem with Clinton's, Swaggart's, or Baker's private lives ...

Huh? Those people were criminals. Big difference.

82 posted on 03/01/2002 11:57:46 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: RAT Patrol
Nixon was a good friend to Israel. And he was right about Jews in the media at that time. And I'm a Jew.
83 posted on 03/01/2002 11:57:51 AM PST by Hildy
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To: a_witness
Is that what you think happened in Germany ?

Good gawd, here comes the professional victim BS...

We ain't talkin bout Germany or the holocaust.

You're trying to smear Billy Grahm. I'm just pointing out the obvious. And what Graham said 30yrs ago about the media was true then and true today.

Just look who runs big media. Hollywood. Hey more power to em. It's a free country. I'm just pointing out the obvious. There's obvious hatred in the media and Hollywood for Christians and Christianity.

84 posted on 03/01/2002 12:02:21 PM PST by VinnyTex
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To: AppyPappy
Is Frank Rich an atheist? I know he's gay and Jewish.
85 posted on 03/01/2002 12:05:23 PM PST by VinnyTex
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To: a_witness, appy pappy
Man ....some of you guys salivating over these morsels of realtive unpleasantness from Nixon and Graham about their concerns for liberal Jewish influence in the media is a bit shrill. Can one not criticize some Jews without being condemned to the Himmler and Heidrick dustbin? Equating criticism of some Jews in the media with outright genocidal maniacs is absurd. I saw Deliverance once. Do I think all Southern Crackers are buggering murderers? No.

I can cherry pick the Talmud for some seriously nasty stuff about Gentiles if I wish but do I think all Jews are wicked anti-Goy New World Order puppet masters? Hardly.

You guys need to get a grip on the knee jerk stuff.

86 posted on 03/01/2002 12:06:46 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: lutine
Please quote any anti-semitic statements I have made.

I'd rather not, but since you insist I'll post one of your most recent comments so everyone can see the darkness of your heart and spirit, 42 posted on 3/1/02 9:52 AM Pacific by lutine Israel is a racist state

It seems you hate Israel with every fiber of your being. Nevertheless, Israel is not a racist state.

87 posted on 03/01/2002 12:08:59 PM PST by a_witness
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To: RAT Patrol
I will always and forever side with Israel regarding their land. It might as well be the USA because I feel that strongly about it!

Why should the united states support Israel or any other nation? Untold amount of american treasure has been thrown at third world nations and places that should not exist. Israel was made up by bigots who did not want jews in europe or the united states. Give them their own homeland and all the jews will leave christian nations. That is the idea behind Israel.
88 posted on 03/01/2002 12:10:28 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: wardaddy
Well, wardaddy, the carard of "Jewish-controlled media" has been around since Hitler's time. That's undisputed. It's a canard repeated by the Arab media (al Jazeera and state-run media in Saudi Arabia and other Arab states). That Nixon said it is no shock to me. The surprise is that Billy Graham, being his obsequious best, agreed with it.
89 posted on 03/01/2002 12:11:06 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
Al Jazerra is owned by the Jews as well! Didn't you know that?
90 posted on 03/01/2002 12:15:07 PM PST by Edmund Burke
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To: VinnyTex
You're trying to smear Billy Grahm.

No, I'm simply holding him accountable for the name he claims. I would do no less with you. Your comments and language indicate it is not important enough to you.

91 posted on 03/01/2002 12:15:12 PM PST by a_witness
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To: Catspaw
That's undisputed. It's a canard repeated by the Arab media (al Jazeera and state-run media in Saudi Arabia and other Arab states). That Nixon said it is no shock to me.

Come on!

I guess we'll have to add the A&E network to the Nazi Germany category.

Perhaps you'd like to point out one movie in the past 20yrs that has put a favorable spin on Christianity.

93 posted on 03/01/2002 12:16:20 PM PST by VinnyTex
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To: a_witness
You're 100 percent right. I ain't important to me. What Graham said is right on the mark.
94 posted on 03/01/2002 12:17:29 PM PST by VinnyTex
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To: Edmund Burke
Al Jazerra is owned by the Jews as well! Didn't you know that?

LOL! As well as Saudi TV. That's why Saudi TV is filming the 30-part series based on the anti-semitic hoax, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" in Egypt...and why I tend to be a itty bit skeptical about the Saudi peace proposal vis-a-vis Israel and the Palestinians.

95 posted on 03/01/2002 12:18:14 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: VinnyTex
You "com'n." This thread has given you license to exercise a white-bread form of anti-semtism, nothing more, nothing less.
96 posted on 03/01/2002 12:19:21 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Hildy
Nixon was a good friend to Israel.

Barely, 1973 could have gone either way.

And he was right about Jews in the media at that time.

He was wrong then and he is wrong now.

And I'm a Jew.

I'm sure you'll tell your friends in shul how much you agree with Nixon's view of the Jews.

97 posted on 03/01/2002 12:19:26 PM PST by a_witness
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To: AppyPappy;a_witness;elwoodp;snopercod;joanie-f
In the shoe business, for example, the owners are the authority for determining the means of production; all other participants' authority with regard to production is determined and delegated by the owners.

In the media business, there is a different arrangement of such powers.

The nature of the product involves much greater freedom of expression from the participants whose creativity is recognized, rightly or wrongly, as requiring greater authority with regard to determing the production process and thence output.

The participants are indeed under the authority of the media business's owners, but the boundary of delegated authority is much much greater than in ordinary (other) kinds of (let us say hard goods) production.

People who claim to be Jews, by race, by faith, or by both, do occupy a majority of positions throughout many of the more theatrical arts on Broadway in New York City and in Hollywood, California, as well as in the news "bidness" --- their population in these trades is dramatically out of proportion to their occurence of population in society.

As such, said Jews do indeed have great control over what the general population sees of the productions.

Because many such Jews are notably leftist, the effects of their production, upon society, are consequently viewed with some irritation by some non-leftists.

Now, what is or is not "anti-Semitic?" That expression is the equivalent of "racist" but pertains specifically to racism against Jews (by race).

So, in the above news stories, to say that Billy Graham is "anti-Semitic" is the same as saying he is a "racist" against Jews (by race).

But we know from the story that in fact, his words are meant to apply to leftist Jews as a political group, who are apparently a source of frustration to him, because of their support for, and in, the pornography industry.

By the way, we ought not accuse people of racism upon their thoughts, because it is racist acts which are the extent of our "doing something about it" under our rule of law.

If we go around pressing criminal law enforcement upon what people think, we may as well tear up the streets and order everybody home under house arrest for eternity.

Besides which, I prefer to know what people have to say, which may or not appear to be "racist," because I prefer to know how the acquired the poor information by which they came to their conclusion, as well as to know better how they may more effectively word their displeasure, or even act upon it, without causing great harm.

"Anti-Semitism" is unfortunately all too speedily applied for political gain, intended not to sound an alert for protecting Jews, but for getting Jews' votes.

Polarization. Balkanization. Match struck. And then "oops!"

No thanks.

98 posted on 03/01/2002 12:20:21 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: VinnyTex
You're 100 percent right.

Your motivation must then simply be hatred of the Jews.

99 posted on 03/01/2002 12:21:28 PM PST by a_witness
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To: wardaddy
Do I think all Southern Crackers are buggering murderers? No.

You just made a case for NOT believing the Jews control Hollywood.

100 posted on 03/01/2002 12:23:06 PM PST by AppyPappy
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