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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Just saw "We Were Soldiers". Outstanding. Sam Peckinpah would have been proud as it's not for the squeamish. If you see only one movie the rest of your life, make it this one. For liberal idiots, or people who don't like this movie, i'm sure Crossroads or Glitter may be playing in the same theater as it's more their speed. It's hard to describe this movie as just a movie, any criticisms would just be nit picking. Go see it for yourself.
22 posted on 03/01/2002 3:26:14 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Just got back from seeing it, too. Outstanding movie.

I came out of the theater emotionally drained from the slap of reality across my face.

God Bless our soldiers.

23 posted on 03/01/2002 3:39:19 PM PST by lysie
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
For liberal idiots, or people who don't like this movie, i'm sure Crossroads or Glitter may be playing in the same theater as it's more their speed.

Already it's started. The weekend section of today's Wall Street Journal panned this film big time. I don't remember the reviewer's name, but I wonder what he was doing when his fellow citizens were dying for their country.

30 posted on 03/01/2002 4:41:20 PM PST by Euro-American Scum
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
..'WE WERE SOLDIERS'.. = REALITY...
31 posted on 03/01/2002 4:42:42 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
I saw it today too. Very powerful, and the best Vietnam movie since "Siege of Fire Base Gloria." Both movies, however, I thought went overboard with the "humanizing" of the North Vietnamese enemy---which was fine in itself---but when you do this you never get a sense of why we were there.

IT WAS THE FAILURE, in fact, to DEMONIZE the enemy that lulled the American public into failing to take this war seriously . . . as a WAR. Lyndon Johnson NEVER made any speeches characterizing Ho Chi Minh as Hitler (the way Bush did with Hussein); there was no at-home propaganda effort to demonize the communists; and there was very little of a public relations offensive against the North itself as "evil."

NOTE THE DIFFERENCE with our current Commander in Chief, who has rightly noted that our enemies are "evil." Now, if the North Viets were not evil (I could ask, why did they leave heads on sticks outside villages?), then we should not have been there. But if it was important enough that we were there, then it should have been important enough to give our troops EVERY advantage, including psychological and propaganda.

To me, this is the most important element missing in both "Siege" and "We Were Soldiers." Everything else, in both movies, was powerful, moving, and realistic. But there has to be more of a reason to kill other men than just "we were fighting for each other." If that's the case, then there is no difference between us and the Somalis in "Black Hawk Down" or, hell, for that matter, the Nazis in "Saving Private Ryan." No, the fact is, we do fight for countries and ideas and patriotism and faith and right. And as Victor Hanson shows in his great new book, it is specifically THESE elements that make the "western way of war" different.

77 posted on 03/02/2002 4:12:53 PM PST by LS
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