Posted on 03/01/2002 2:51:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
One more day of hearing the truth.
Good point! And don't these studies include as children in their numbers, ages up to 23?
Second, I wonder how a Harvard Health Study would be accepted, if it looked at the deaths caused by vaccines and ignored the lives saved by vaccinations? We also know from John Lott's study and other studies that gun ownership reduces the number of murders, assaults, rapes and robberies and especially those public run amok killers. How many lives does widespread gun ownership save?
Third, if simple gun ownership kills kids, shouldn't the police and the military be disarmed too? If not, isn't that putting other priorities above the lives of kids? Just wondering.
The study implies that keeping a gun for home protection is a bad move but it does not state that these "accidental shootings" happened in a home setting. Its very possible the majority happen during deer season.
Oh, don't give them the green light!
I find it most interesting that they chose to limit the children's ages. In most "guns kill children" studies, the "children's" ages range up to 19. I imagine this "significant" difference in child mortality disappears quite rapidly around 16. ;)
Given control of a dataset, you can prove anything. Statistics is so much fun!
You are exactly right. There have been so many of these bogus "studies" made by radical anti-gun "scholars" that the pro-gun truth squads are kept busy debunking them. Even impartial independent research has shown them to be bogus, but seemingly to no avail because they are still given credence by the media and the leftist pols. The famous study made in Washington state a few years ago and which was ballyhooed on every 6 o'clock news show for years was quickly shown to be a total fraud by several different debunkers, yet we still hear the "statistic" that a gun in the home is 48 times (or some such ridiculous number) more likely to kill a household member than a criminal intruder. Even though the original "study" has been completely discredited by non-partisan research as well as by pro-gun research, the fraudulent figures are still regularly quoted as gospel truth by the media whores at every opportunity.
Then there is the bogus "study" statistic of thirty-something "children" killed by guns every day in America. We have shown over and over that that statistic counts young people up to 24 years old as children, which takes in virtually all of the gang-banger, drug dealer, stick-up artist population. If only actual, honest-to-Pete children are counted, the number of firearms related child deaths is drastically reduced into the same general statistical realm as drownings in 5 gallon buckets. Yet again, even though this child-death fraud has been thoroughly and repeatedly debunked, the media keeps on endlessy quoting the bogus statistic. Once this kind of traudulent "study" gets out into the media it will live on forever, even though a stake has been driven squarely through it's heart by real, honest research.
As you said, the anti-gun people are shameless liars who will lie, steal, cheat, and do or say anything to advance their cause of disarming the American people. It makes you wonder why one particular sector of the political spectrum is so relentlessly determined to establish a total government monopoly on weapons possession.
The study says that it considered factors such as education and income, both of which would be related to your factors of "enlightenment" and "intervention" via drugs or other efforts. The factors were not sufficient to explain the gross difference in gun deaths among children.
The study looked at data from all 50 states from 1988 to 1997. In that period, 6,817 children between 5 and 14 years old died from firearms: 3,447 from homicides, 1,782 from accidental shootings and 1,588 from suicide.
Accidental Death Rates for Children (ages 0-14) |
|
Cause |
Number |
Motor Vehicle | 3,059 |
Drowning | 1,060 |
Fires, burns | 833 |
Mechanical Suffocation | 459 |
Ingestion of Food or Object | 213 |
Firearms | 181 |
Figures are for 1995. National Safety Council, Accident Facts: 1998 Edition, at 10, 11, 18. |
In 1997, the total number of children, ages 0-14 killed by firearms (all causes) was 629 or 1.7 per day.
National Center for Health Statistics, 1997
Accidental gun deaths among children have declined by over 50 % in 25 years, even though the population (and the gun stock) has continued to increase.
Kopel, Guns: Who Should Have Them?, at 311 and National Safety Council, Accident Facts: 1998 Edition, at 18.
Children 14 and under are over 21 times more likely to die in an automobile, and nearly 8 times more likely to drown than die in an accident with a gun.
Data compiled from National Health Safety Council, Injury Facts, 1999
Courtesy of gunfacts.org
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