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Yates lived by rigid schedule, according to husband
The Dallas Morning News ^ | March 1, 2002 (The Ides of March are upon us!) | By TERRI LANGFORD / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 03/01/2002 1:45:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


Yates lived by rigid schedule, according to husband

Husband also testifies she was allowed 3 hours a week without her kids

03/01/2002

By TERRI LANGFORD / The Dallas Morning News

HOUSTON - Russell "Rusty" Yates told jurors Thursday about how his wife, Andrea, lived by a rigid schedule as housekeeper and teacher and was allowed three hours each week to do whatever she wanted, alone, without her children.

"Man's the breadwinner and the woman's the homemaker," Mr. Yates said Thursday during Mrs. Yates' capital murder trial. Mrs. Yates pleaded insanity after admitting that she drowned her five children in June.

While he talked proudly of the couple's decision to toe a higher ethical line based on biblical teachings and lessons gleaned from a conservative newsletter called "Perilous Times," Mr. Yates coincidentally painted a picture for jurors of a bleak life bereft of any outlet for Mrs. Yates besides her children.

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"A scared animal" is how Debbie Holmes testified that her friend Andrea Yates behaved in the days before she killed her children.

Mr. Yates, 37, told the jury that he and his wife agreed before their wedding in 1993 to a "traditional" marriage in which he would serve as sole breadwinner and she would be homemaker.

The pact included being a stay-at-home mother, primary caregiver and, eventually, home-school teacher. Mr. Yates said that he controlled the cash and that she stuck carefully to an allowance.

Therapist Earline Wilcott, who met with Mrs. Yates after her suicide attempts, testified that her client felt overwhelmed and trapped.

Ms. Wilcott said Mrs. Yates felt criticized for the way she ran the household. Ms. Wilcott said Mrs. Yates told her that her husband bought her a book on how to get organized.

When pressure from raising their children appeared to be getting to Mrs. Yates, she could always look forward to Thursdays. Mr. Yates testified that for three hours once each week from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. Mrs. Yates could do whatever she wanted, alone, without the children.

The free time was to provide some relief for his wife, Mr. Yates said. "I guess that's what we decided," he said.

Mrs. Yates is a diagnosed schizophrenic predisposed to pitch-black depressions that followed the births of her last two children. Testimony has shown that the 37-year-old registered nurse with perfectionist tendencies and a solid Christian faith went along with the home management plan she and Mr. Yates hammered out before marriage.

During a second day of testimony, this time during questioning by Harris County prosecutor Joe Owmby, Mr. Yates, a NASA engineer, said he and Mrs. Yates agreed before marrying that she would give up her job at M.D. Anderson Cancer Center at Houston.

"We thought it best that Andrea be home," Mr. Yates testified.

Prosecutors say Mrs. Yates was fully aware of what she was doing when she drowned Noah, 7; John, 5; Paul, 3; Luke, 2; and 6-month-old Mary in the family bathtub.

Mrs. Yates' trial, which began Feb. 18, is expected to go through next week. She faces life in prison or lethal injection if convicted.

During questioning, Mr. Yates said his wife was quiet and remarkably modest. After they were married, Mrs. Yates wouldn't undress in front of her husband. "That's a pretty personal question, but generally that's true. She's shy," he testified.

While Mr. Yates found time for interests such as biking to work, joining a gym and working in the garage, Mrs. Yates had the children and home-schooling to keep up with.

Their life also included some unusual experiments and choices.

Almost as soon as their first home was built, they rented it out, trading it for a 38-foot trailer to live a "simpler life."

"I think a lot of it was that Andrea was generally happy in the house, I probably wasn't as happy in the house," he said.

After being married 41/2 years, with three young children and another on the way, they sold the trailer for a $37,000 converted Greyhound bus.

"I didn't view it as a hardship," Mr. Yates said. "We like it better than a house."

After the 1999 birth of their fourth child, Luke, the close quarters appeared to get to her. She summoned her husband home one day. He found her sobbing and shaking in the back of the bus.

The next day, she took an overdose. Less than a month later, she held a knife to her throat.

Mr. Yates told jurors how he faithfully drove his wife to therapy after her two suicide attempts.

He also told jurors that his wife opted for natural childbirth.

Although he conceded that the newsletter he and his wife read advocated natural childbirth for a "humbling experience for a woman," Mr. Yates said it was his wife's idea to go without local anesthetic.

"It was her choice," he said. "Sometimes Andrea liked to take the hard road instead of an easy road."

Despite warnings from at least one psychiatrist who said having more children would bring Mrs. Yates a harsher version of the depression that sent her to try to kill herself, they had a fifth child on Nov. 30, 2000.

They knew that Haldol pulled her out of the depths in 1999, after the birth of Luke. When Mrs. Yates faltered again, particularly after her father died in March 2001, they asked for the drug again.

"I knew she was sick," Mr. Yates said. "She wouldn't have tried to commit suicide if she hadn't been sick."

Four days before she drowned her children, Mrs. Yates awoke screaming that she was trapped. As her husband comforted her, she told him about her nightmare. "Something about in her dream she was trapped in her bed," Mr. Yates said.

"A scared animal" is how Debbie Holmes later testified that Mrs. Yates behaved in the days before she killed her children. The women met about 16 years ago at M.D. Anderson.

Mrs. Holmes said Mrs. Yates spoke only three complete sentences to her in the four months before the children died. Her hair greasy and matted, her body reeking, Mrs. Yates was a walking zombie then, Mrs. Holmes said.

"I was appalled," said Mrs. Holmes. "She looked like a cancer patient." When she heard that the children were drowned, a teary Mrs. Holmes said she collapsed.

"I fell on the floor, and I just cried," Mrs. Holmes said. "I was screaming. It can't be my Andrea."


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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: Real Cynic No More
Slavery. That is the perfect term for this.
22 posted on 03/01/2002 2:50:23 AM PST by Lanza
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To: Lanza
That man did not care about his wife, and I believe she killed those children to hurt him

i agree, it sounds like passive/aggressive retaliation to me. she knew if she killed herself it would not have nearly the impact on him.

23 posted on 03/01/2002 2:50:51 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: MeeknMing
This article is continued evidence that Andreas strange comments and behavior indicate that she killed the children as some kind of "payback" to the husband. I'd have to look up old threads, but her comments at the time can be seen in that light.
26 posted on 03/01/2002 2:55:11 AM PST by xzins
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To: xsmommy
I agree. I also think that Andrea expressed extreme anger with her husband by attacking the source of his pride--his children, and at the same time, she freed the children from his influence, albeit in a horrible way. She saw no way out--she was sick and fatigued beyond belief.

She is definitely guilty--no doubt about that--but Randy Yates must be held accountable for his part in this disaster. Had he put his children into a car with a drunk, or had he put them into a yard filled with attack dogs, he couldn't have put them more into harm's way. He lived with her--he saw what was happening. There is no way that he can be excused from culpability.

27 posted on 03/01/2002 2:55:16 AM PST by Marty
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To: Marty
He lived with her--he saw what was happening. There is no way that he can be excused from culpability

he not only SAW what was happening to her, he CAUSED IT!!

28 posted on 03/01/2002 2:56:53 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Lanza
I think the mother-in-law AND the Husband are both sicko's. Hubby should be prosecuted right along with Andrea...he and his "rigid schedule"...
30 posted on 03/01/2002 2:58:10 AM PST by Neets
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To: muggs
We can hope, but even Richard Speck had his groupies.
31 posted on 03/01/2002 2:58:26 AM PST by technochick99
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To: xsmommy
I also think that she wanted to get the children away from him, both as punishment for him and as a means of revealing what was going on with them. This was a deliberate act, one that points to the husband as the focal point of her anger. The children were the victims, to be sure, and killing them freed her of the responsibility of their care, but I honestly think that she harbored extreme anger at her husband--and with good reason. Still, it doesn't excuse her of the murders, and her husband needs to be held accountable for his actions in this mess.
32 posted on 03/01/2002 2:59:50 AM PST by Marty
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To: MeeknMing
Funny how almost everyone on this thread seems to assume the husband is a liar and accepts the liberal media spin that he deserves to be hanged.

Are all individuals responsible for their own actions?

Or only the men?

Fry her.

33 posted on 03/01/2002 3:00:31 AM PST by wotan
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To: wotan; marty
NO ONE here is absolving andrea of accountability for her actions. i think the point being made is that this husband should be fried along side her for creating the untenable situation that caused her to lose her mind and murder her kids.
34 posted on 03/01/2002 3:02:52 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
Exactly. She had already tried to off herself twice, and he didn't give a rats you-know-what. I believe when the truth comes out, we will find all these thoughts of her being a bad mother and the kids not developing correctly will be attributed to that sick control freak husband too. He got her a book on organizing? When in the hell did he think she was going to have time to organize with 5 kids all 7 and under? As we see, he's still in control EVEN of her defense. She was "allowed" 3 hours a week of time to herself? That SOB should have sent her to a Spa twice a year for all she did. How can you think your wife can homeschool, when she has tried to kill herself twice? He has lied so much through this whole thing too. He says he wasn't told the risks, didn't know how ill she was etc. That is a lie. Her girlfriend (a nurse) was crying and begging him to get her help. I in no way think she should get off, but he should get some type of child endangerment chanrges or something.
35 posted on 03/01/2002 3:03:43 AM PST by Lanza
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To: one_particular_harbour
He is poison, but in a society where men go to jail for just elevating their voice to their wives, or where you have more psychologist franchises than Mac Donalds, I hardly can believe that she was that helpless. Of course I have seen myself in liberal Germany retarded mongoloids or women with goiters getting exploited for prostitution by "protecting" pimps. I do agree, those do exist, and there maybe such in the US.

One thing is sure, the children somehow fell out of a loop in everyone's mind, including the psychologists who treated her. They were more worried about her having to care for children than the children themselves. And now they're dead.

36 posted on 03/01/2002 3:03:51 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: wotan
liberal media does spin, and perhaps they are looking to absolve her of culpability based on her mental state. but the point here, is that there are FACTS, not opinions, on how this man ran that household. Living in a dang BUS with 4 kids???? my 3 kids drive me insane and i live in a 4000 sq ft. house!
38 posted on 03/01/2002 3:04:29 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: wotan
I am not accepting any liberal spin. I believe what her best friend and others have testified to. The woman stunk, her hair was matted, and she tried to kill herself twice. She did not need to be watching 5 kids let alone being expected to homeschool them. She was sick.
39 posted on 03/01/2002 3:06:24 AM PST by Lanza
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To: wotan
I don't think anyone here is excusing her action bucko....I think the general consensous is that they are BOTH culpable....he is just as looney as she is...and should be fried for his actions, or even lack thereof...he knew she couldn't cope with the kids, and not only does he "buy her a bus to live in", but keeps impregnating her???? C'mon...
40 posted on 03/01/2002 3:07:17 AM PST by Neets
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