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Yates lived by rigid schedule, according to husband
The Dallas Morning News ^ | March 1, 2002 (The Ides of March are upon us!) | By TERRI LANGFORD / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 03/01/2002 1:45:51 AM PST by MeekOneGOP


Yates lived by rigid schedule, according to husband

Husband also testifies she was allowed 3 hours a week without her kids

03/01/2002

By TERRI LANGFORD / The Dallas Morning News

HOUSTON - Russell "Rusty" Yates told jurors Thursday about how his wife, Andrea, lived by a rigid schedule as housekeeper and teacher and was allowed three hours each week to do whatever she wanted, alone, without her children.

"Man's the breadwinner and the woman's the homemaker," Mr. Yates said Thursday during Mrs. Yates' capital murder trial. Mrs. Yates pleaded insanity after admitting that she drowned her five children in June.

While he talked proudly of the couple's decision to toe a higher ethical line based on biblical teachings and lessons gleaned from a conservative newsletter called "Perilous Times," Mr. Yates coincidentally painted a picture for jurors of a bleak life bereft of any outlet for Mrs. Yates besides her children.

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"A scared animal" is how Debbie Holmes testified that her friend Andrea Yates behaved in the days before she killed her children.

Mr. Yates, 37, told the jury that he and his wife agreed before their wedding in 1993 to a "traditional" marriage in which he would serve as sole breadwinner and she would be homemaker.

The pact included being a stay-at-home mother, primary caregiver and, eventually, home-school teacher. Mr. Yates said that he controlled the cash and that she stuck carefully to an allowance.

Therapist Earline Wilcott, who met with Mrs. Yates after her suicide attempts, testified that her client felt overwhelmed and trapped.

Ms. Wilcott said Mrs. Yates felt criticized for the way she ran the household. Ms. Wilcott said Mrs. Yates told her that her husband bought her a book on how to get organized.

When pressure from raising their children appeared to be getting to Mrs. Yates, she could always look forward to Thursdays. Mr. Yates testified that for three hours once each week from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. Mrs. Yates could do whatever she wanted, alone, without the children.

The free time was to provide some relief for his wife, Mr. Yates said. "I guess that's what we decided," he said.

Mrs. Yates is a diagnosed schizophrenic predisposed to pitch-black depressions that followed the births of her last two children. Testimony has shown that the 37-year-old registered nurse with perfectionist tendencies and a solid Christian faith went along with the home management plan she and Mr. Yates hammered out before marriage.

During a second day of testimony, this time during questioning by Harris County prosecutor Joe Owmby, Mr. Yates, a NASA engineer, said he and Mrs. Yates agreed before marrying that she would give up her job at M.D. Anderson Cancer Center at Houston.

"We thought it best that Andrea be home," Mr. Yates testified.

Prosecutors say Mrs. Yates was fully aware of what she was doing when she drowned Noah, 7; John, 5; Paul, 3; Luke, 2; and 6-month-old Mary in the family bathtub.

Mrs. Yates' trial, which began Feb. 18, is expected to go through next week. She faces life in prison or lethal injection if convicted.

During questioning, Mr. Yates said his wife was quiet and remarkably modest. After they were married, Mrs. Yates wouldn't undress in front of her husband. "That's a pretty personal question, but generally that's true. She's shy," he testified.

While Mr. Yates found time for interests such as biking to work, joining a gym and working in the garage, Mrs. Yates had the children and home-schooling to keep up with.

Their life also included some unusual experiments and choices.

Almost as soon as their first home was built, they rented it out, trading it for a 38-foot trailer to live a "simpler life."

"I think a lot of it was that Andrea was generally happy in the house, I probably wasn't as happy in the house," he said.

After being married 41/2 years, with three young children and another on the way, they sold the trailer for a $37,000 converted Greyhound bus.

"I didn't view it as a hardship," Mr. Yates said. "We like it better than a house."

After the 1999 birth of their fourth child, Luke, the close quarters appeared to get to her. She summoned her husband home one day. He found her sobbing and shaking in the back of the bus.

The next day, she took an overdose. Less than a month later, she held a knife to her throat.

Mr. Yates told jurors how he faithfully drove his wife to therapy after her two suicide attempts.

He also told jurors that his wife opted for natural childbirth.

Although he conceded that the newsletter he and his wife read advocated natural childbirth for a "humbling experience for a woman," Mr. Yates said it was his wife's idea to go without local anesthetic.

"It was her choice," he said. "Sometimes Andrea liked to take the hard road instead of an easy road."

Despite warnings from at least one psychiatrist who said having more children would bring Mrs. Yates a harsher version of the depression that sent her to try to kill herself, they had a fifth child on Nov. 30, 2000.

They knew that Haldol pulled her out of the depths in 1999, after the birth of Luke. When Mrs. Yates faltered again, particularly after her father died in March 2001, they asked for the drug again.

"I knew she was sick," Mr. Yates said. "She wouldn't have tried to commit suicide if she hadn't been sick."

Four days before she drowned her children, Mrs. Yates awoke screaming that she was trapped. As her husband comforted her, she told him about her nightmare. "Something about in her dream she was trapped in her bed," Mr. Yates said.

"A scared animal" is how Debbie Holmes later testified that Mrs. Yates behaved in the days before she killed her children. The women met about 16 years ago at M.D. Anderson.

Mrs. Holmes said Mrs. Yates spoke only three complete sentences to her in the four months before the children died. Her hair greasy and matted, her body reeking, Mrs. Yates was a walking zombie then, Mrs. Holmes said.

"I was appalled," said Mrs. Holmes. "She looked like a cancer patient." When she heard that the children were drowned, a teary Mrs. Holmes said she collapsed.

"I fell on the floor, and I just cried," Mrs. Holmes said. "I was screaming. It can't be my Andrea."


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To: riley1992
She did it and should pay. However, he KNEW how sick she was. She tried to off herself not once but twice. She walked around with matted hair and stinking and he thought the kids were safe with her? He didn't care about anybody but Russell Yates. You don't leave your children with a suicidal crazy woman if you love them and are concerned about their welfare. The fact that he could remarry and have more children is frightening. He should have to do some time or have some type of punishment for child endangerment or neglect. The sicko is now hoping to get rich and sue the medical community. The fact he could get one dime off the murder of his children is sick too. I am interested in those facts coming out too. Did he take her to every follow up appointment? Did he follow doctors instructions? They keep records, so I will be very interested to see that unfold as well.
221 posted on 03/01/2002 6:23:52 AM PST by Lanza
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To: AppyPappy
no, we would blame her for not getting the dang kids out of a dangerous situation, that is what would make her equally criminally complicit were the situation reversed. We are all believers in personal responsibility, are we not? we are all saying andrea is responsible for her actions, NUTS OR NO. and SO IS RANDY, he was the breadwinner, head of the household, he knew his wife was a dang loony toon and he could have taken those kids out of that situation, by removing them from his wife's care. he did NOTHING, he allowed the untenable situation to continue and contributed to the murder of his children. period.
222 posted on 03/01/2002 6:23:55 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Lanza
There would be charges brought against him if he left those children unattended in a hot car. She was soooooo visibly incapabale of taking care of those kids, I see no difference. I don't want to see her ever free, but he knew she was too sick. Her best friend was crying and begging him to get her help. Her hair was matted and she stunk. He should fry too.

I think he's a tyrant!

224 posted on 03/01/2002 6:26:48 AM PST by lonestar
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To: riley1992
It makes me crazy mad with rage and desire for retribution....and when ever I hear of cases such as this it makes me crazy...especially today..in 2002....there are just tooooo many places to go for help these days, it is difficult, if not impossible for me to excuse anyones actions like this.
225 posted on 03/01/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by Neets
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To: xsmommy
That's not what you said. You said "equally responsible". There is no way he is equally responsible because she could have walked anytime she wanted. But she CHOSE to stay.
227 posted on 03/01/2002 6:50:10 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
yes he IS equally responsible. she chose to stay and he chose not to remove his children from their unstable stay at home mother's care. EQUALLY culpable.
228 posted on 03/01/2002 6:55:02 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: AppyPappy
She was looney as a toon!

If I leave my babies in the care of an immature 9 year old, and something happens to them, don't you think I should be help responsible? Andrea Yates has a LONG history of mental illness. Assuming there's no room for grace in the legal system, Mr. Yates should be held just as responsible for leaving the children alone in her care as if he'd left them in the care of an immature babysitter.

229 posted on 03/01/2002 6:55:11 AM PST by joathome
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To: one_particular_harbour
I sent him on an errand. It'll be a while.

Looks as if he has better things to do than running your "errands."

230 posted on 03/01/2002 6:55:47 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: joathome
excellent point!
231 posted on 03/01/2002 6:56:16 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: OkieGrit2
That happened in our church too. Ours is a fundamental bible church with a Plymoth Brethren background. Christianity, in general, has a lot of people that are "not wise, not might, not noble".

In this case the woman seemed to have a huge fear for her kids salvation. She seemed to be overly concerned about their righteiousness. I know pentacostals who sound like that. The doctrine of losing your salvation and needing to maintain your salvation seems to weigh very heavily on them year after year and many of them seem kind of goofy.

232 posted on 03/01/2002 6:57:28 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: one_particular_harbour
Just out of curiosity,is it possible that her lawyers and husband are putting on an insanity defense (she is insane IMO) even though she doesn't want it? If I was in her place, I would want to die.
233 posted on 03/01/2002 6:58:24 AM PST by muggs
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To: xsmommy
Note: Some women are attracted to control freaks. They aren't happy unless someone is micromanaging their lives. I dated a control freak once. Thankfully, she considered me a bad candidate and dumped me. God was good to me.
234 posted on 03/01/2002 7:01:48 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: one_particular_harbour
Is there any way, that a member of her family can file suit aginst him for what he did to her psychologically?

It looks too, like she may exhibit some symptoms of the Stockholm Syndrome'. You know, where victims of kidnapping, are held long enough that they eventually start to think like their captors and sympathize with them. Maybe a form of brainwashing.

235 posted on 03/01/2002 7:02:53 AM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: joathome
Are you saying the State should have taken her kids from her because she was mentally ill? (note: Men cannot take children from their wives. It doesn't work that way).
236 posted on 03/01/2002 7:03:20 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: MeeknMing
The husband appears to be hardheaded and the decision maker in the family. When he decides they could sell the house - they sell the house although she is happy with it. When he decides to sell the trailer, they sell the trailer. When he says he faithfully took her to treatments - I seem to see how he avoided seeing her deteriorating condition. How come a sick woman is only allowed three hours away from her responsibilities.

When told not to have more children, he would not give up what he wanted but went ahead. Looks like his vision is the only ruling force in that family and he chooses to listen or not to others opinions.

A wife walking around like a zombie with greasy matted hair and reeking is a definite clue that things are not working.

239 posted on 03/01/2002 7:08:43 AM PST by ClancyJ
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To: xsmommy
You are implying he held their heads under water just as she did. That's simply not true. It's the old "She/He was asking for it" defense just as in rape. As best I can tell, he wasn't even home when she killed those kids. Saying that the State should have removed the kids because she was mentally ill is going to open up a Pandora's Box considering the number of moms who are that way.

I don't see how he is guilty of anything except being an asshole. How do you know she didn't WANT to be treated this way. I know men who have to ask their wives permission to do ANYTHING. Should their kids be removed because their wives are nags?

240 posted on 03/01/2002 7:09:11 AM PST by AppyPappy
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