[Ward Smythe]

The insinuation then and now is that God makes them so that they cannot come. They do not come because they do not want to come.

Do you mean they choose not to come? How can that be?

The insinuation is that God makes them so they cannot come or that they do not want to come. Either way they cannot do anything about it.

You don't want us to believe that's what Calvinism says, but that's exactly what it says.

[RnMomof7]

Do you mean they choose not to come? How can that be?

How can it be that my unsaved family has heard of hell,has heard the gospel and chooses not to "come"

[CCWoody]

The insinuation is that God makes them so they cannot come or that they do not want to come. Either way they cannot do anything about it.

Ummm!, Ward, not that I cannot respond, I'd like to see your answer to this: Did God make anybody so that they did not want to come?

Would you say that God is the creator of all?
Would you say that God knew his elect from the foundations of the world?
Would you say that God knew the non-elect from the foundations of the world?
Would you say that only the elect can come to God?