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To: FreedominJesusChrist
God has given us a free will and we are not robots. If you truly are sorry for your sins, ask for forgiveness, and believe that Jesus died to take away your sins, then you are truly saved.

I'm curious, FreedominJesusChrist; if there is freedom in Christ, then what is there in sin?

Notice that the Bible does not just say the few elect or those that have been specially chosen ahead of time?

Mine says that God has Predestined all His children from before the foundation of the world to glorification & adoption as sons. What kind of book do you use; mine is the Word of God?

474 posted on 02/28/2002 9:18:01 AM PST by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
Actually, I read the NIV version of the Bible. Please tell me then, what is the point of Christ's Great Commission, if only the few elect have already been pre-destined? What is the point of missions at all, if God has already chosen who was to go to heaven and who was bound for hell? Freedom in Jesus Christ means freedom from the bondages of slavery to sin. That is true freedom and is even better than political freedom.

John 3:16-17 states, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."

The Bible does not say there, "The few elect." It says the world, or all people.

In 1 Timothy 2:3-4, it states that "This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth."

Nor does the Bible say there, "The few elect."

As for the Calvinist belief that once people are saved, they stay always saved, that is not true either. In the Bible it says in the beginning that Saul had the Spirit of God within him and it also says that he fell away. Take also for the example, that of King Joash in 2 Chronicles, that is a similiar story there.

484 posted on 02/28/2002 9:41:04 AM PST by FreedominJesusChrist
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