Posted on 02/22/2002 2:42:20 PM PST by restornu
Is it possible, because we are all wired in the brain the same basic way, that a brain, starved of oxygen and losing brain cells, in a total systematic way, shuts down enough functions that a vivid dream-like state is induced that all the NDE have in common? In other words, could the NDE be simply a matter of the brain's last moments showing our consciousness breaking down? I have read about people who deprived of all sensorary experience in experiments having visions, feeling people or things touching them, voices heard, etc.
Anyway, it would be nice to have my hypothesis above disproved.
Most beautiful and peaceful experience I can ever imagine!
And that is all I am going to say about it!
That morning I got a call he passed away.
Another time I was working in apt building with 145 units this tenant who was a Doctor that many thought was peculiar stop by the desk to tell me not to talk unkind of him, he was very concern what others thought of him. Little did I know he had been dead for a week - Yet he appeared in front of me, the body was discovered the next day, because tenants complained of an foul odor coming from his apt.
Or, if you're interested in OBE's (Out of Body experiences) try the Monroe Institute at http://www.monroeinstitute.org/
The Monroe Institute is interesting because a fellow named Bob Monroe started having OBE's and wrote 3 books on the subject. He, being a rational sort, was concerned about the illusion factor, as well as the possibility that he was having some sort of illusion/delusion, and he addressed those concerns in his books. Some of his experiences were bizarre, so take it with a grain of salt.
I will say that I've tried some of their tapes/CDs and they will put you to sleep very effectively. The pain control and mental focus tapes worked well also. So it does seem that they've got some good ideas....
but the NDE & OBE see in many multi-dimention
If we call ourselves Christians and get involved in the occult, no matter how innocent it seems, we always bring a curse on ourselves. On the other hand, if we obey God, love Him, repent of occult involvement, He will give us supernatural experiences that are so life changing and so awesome. Once I saw four angels surrounding my toddler's bed, about 9 feet tall. I could see that the two facing me had swords in their hands, and when I saw them, I remember not just the joy and peace, but I remember thinking how different it was from seeing "spirits". If you see the supposed "spirit of a loved one", you want to see them again to feel close to them or to find out something. When I saw angels, I thought, I never need to see another angel again. In fact, I prayed to the Lord to let someone else see them that needed comfort instead of my ever seeing them again. It was enough just to know that He wanted me to feel comfort at that moment and I wanted to worship Him not the angels.
Some excellent books to read are:
The Beautiful Side of Evil This book almost paralleled my life experiences
Window to Heaven This book was written by an agnostic turned believer, pediatric oncologist who saw children have NDEs
To Hell and Back about good and hellish NDEs
Visions Beyond the Veil
http://skepdic.com/nde.html (cut and paste)
Many people believe that the NDE proves there is life after death in a literal sense. To others, more cautious, the experience is not "proof," but it suggests that some aspect of human consciousness may be independent of the body and may survive physical death. To others, the NDE defines a value system based on care for others, knowledge, and service. Whether one sees the meaning of the NDE as religious or secular, there is much to learn.
Very interesting, article. Thanks very much.
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