I must now stop reading anything you post or I will be forced to go twist one up!
Posted on 02/20/2002 6:08:45 AM PST by Magician
Doesn't this give them authority over some things over the state? Here it speaks of their authority? Granted, I am not a constitutional scholar. That is why I say the best evidence that the current situation is legal is the fact that it is still law now and hasn't been repealed.
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To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
To: A CA Guy
The intent of this post is to bring to the readers attention the dishonesty of A CA GUY. Call it documenting the facts.
To: Zon
Can't have people high on pot because it sets a bad example for children in the community, right. It takes a village to raise a child, right?
Because it is an evil product that hurts users and those around them. It would take a village of sociopaths to support illegal drug use.Is it any wonder that children are prone to telling lies considering that parents are first to teach their children by example how to lie ...
Children tend to learn to lie because they want to avoid the consequences of what they do wrong.
Illegal drug users want everybody to be free to do evil so they can go about their evil.
324 posted on 2/20/02 7:06 PM Pacific by ZonA CA Guy intentional injected his words into a quote and then posted it as though his words were mine. I have highlighted in red the text that A CA Guy dishonestly attributed to me. Read post #324 to verify. No doubt A CA Guy will conjure up a tail-chasing rationalization to explain how it's not a "duck" despite it looks like a "duck", walks like a "duck" and reads like a "duck".
Nailed it again. Read the tail-chasing rationalizations...
To: Zon
What a load of BS. You are a total Hole!
Your words are in italic and my response to your empty views which I post are in non-italic directly under them. What is in red as well as in black non-italic above are what my words think of your words. That is obvious and done of FR all the time.
You are out of your tree in your remark. You should apologize. We may disagree, fine, but that was a moronic statement you made.
Many people use italics to set apart their words from others. Most people also use a paragraph-empty-line to separate their words from the person to which they're responding. You did insert a paragraph-empty-line to separate my two paragraphs but you didn't do it to separate your words from mine. Here's how you got nailed...
People post the very last line of a post (post#, date posted, time posted, posted by ) to show that the above remarks came from that post. Which is what you did in your #328 post.
Real patriots there stood up to jack booted thugs who took their son, were taking their property unconstitutionally, and were going to impose draconian sentences of 25 years in federal prison to two guys who wanted marijuana laws repealed and grew plants in the privacy of their home.
We had 100 FBI agents in West Michigan participating in the murder of two American potsmokers the week before Sept. 11. They should have been investigating the terrorists laptop or one of the warnings they gave the general public prior to Sept. 11. Don't you agree?
That refers to the District of Columbia (note the ten miles square reference) and military reservations. In that area the federal government has some powers normally reserved for the states.
Please try again.
Does marijuana wrinkle your skin or age you? I ask this because I saw a woman at one of these deliveries who I could tell was around 50, but her face looked like she was around 65 or 70. What's with that?
Cinton/Gore knew and had Sudam in their hands and wouldn't take him.
Some situations could definitly been handled better for sure. I don't mind there being a review of procedures in investigating drug users. If there are 100 FBI going into a home, I most certainly think there would need to be a whole bunch of coordination to make sure things go well. I would think too many people in a area causes confusion.
An example of this is any war we are in. We often accidentally kill some of our own troops. Even in this current war some of our folks died by accidents and miss placed bombs.
There is no perfection, but striving for it is a good thing to have the best results.
You take the job upon yourself.
Nobody but you thought what you did. Should be an example to you of you how you have fringe views. Most can connect the dots here on there own. You were the victim of nothing! Poor post!
Yes, he means Article I Section 8.
This country is founded on mostly Christian principles and God is written into many of the founding documents. There isn't a mainstream Christian faith that is for illegal drug use. So don't attempt to transplant your evil as being just another kind of morally acceptable view. It isn't.
You are an imposter in name and values!
Hello! How many billions of tax dollars are spent each year busting, procecuting, convicting, interdicting, and incarcerating pot growers, peddlers and importers. That money is our tax dollars!! That is "nanny state socialism"! And it is socialism because this weed is less dangerous to society...and an individuals health...than cigarettes and booze. That is hipocracy at its worse...and the only reason that pot is illegal is because there is too much money to be made.....by black marketeers...as well as our gov't law enforcement, prisons, and courts. If pot was legal....and potheads could grow their own....then the black marketeers would be out of business....and we tax payers could save all that "nanny state socialsim" cash that we waste on the war on pot. I for the life of me can't understand why that concept is so hard for folks to grasp. You aren't a prison guard are you??
Section 8 (I mistyped in the first post). You quoted clause 17 of section 8.
In any case section 8 is a laundry list (Below). Find anything that gives the congress power to regulate intoxicants.
Section. 8.Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Clause 2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
Clause 4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
Clause 5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
Clause 6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
Clause 8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
Clause 9: To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
Clause 10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
Clause 11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
Clause 12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
Clause 13: To provide and maintain a Navy;
Clause 14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
Clause 15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
Clause 16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Clause 17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, byCession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And
Clause 18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
If it is'nt in there it has to be in an ammendment.
Hint. LIBERALS like to use the commerce clause (3) to regulate anything they please.
The rest of the constitution is things the govt is specifically not allowed to do or mechanical things like succession and finances.
I must now stop reading anything you post or I will be forced to go twist one up!
It is the explanation given for current Constitutional Interpretation and may she light on this since they are Constitutional Scholars here.
The bottom line of it was about what I said. The evidence that it must be legal still is a current court has not seen fit to overturn it!
Interpretation of the Constitution
The Constitution represents only a set of general principles out of which implementing statutes and codes have emerged. The success of the document in remaining the foundation of American government is based on the fact that successive Congresses and Courts have been able to interpret it or readapt it to the demands of changing times.
Often, contributions to Constitutional interpretation are set by precedent, custom and usage. Early on, Congress began enhancing the definition of Constitution powers through statute, such as providing for the creation of the federal budget system, executive departments, federal courts, new states and territories, and controlling presidential succession. Article I, section 8, states that Congress shall have the authority "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution" the various powers allotted to the federal government by the Constitution.
The executive branch added to Constitutional interpretation by developing the executive agreement as a foreign policy instrument. Other practices based on custom and usage have become practically unassailable and have been recognized as valid extensions of Constitution interpretation: political parties, procedures for nominating presidential candidates, the electoral college system, the appointment of a presidential cabinet.
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