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WHY LEGALIZE MARIJUANA?
Voy forum ^ | 2-19-2 | Marc-Boris St-Maurice

Posted on 02/20/2002 6:08:45 AM PST by Magician

My first reaction is WHY NOT?

It’s a question of common sense.

Our marijuana laws do not work. They never have, and they never will.

Their stated goal being to rid society of the so-called affliction of marijuana use, the harsh reality is that since prohibition, usage rates have increased drastically.

Either we legalize it, and fast, or we get busy locking up millions of Canadians. With one out of three Canadians admitting to having tried marijuana, we may very well be locking up our best and brightest, not ruined by drugs, but ruined by the criminal sanctions that go with getting caught for what amounts to a common social practice. I can’t even begin to count how many elected officials admitted to having used it, yet everyday hundreds of average citizens are arrested for marijuana offences.

So, why are there so many users, and why is marijuana so easy to acquire?

In a strange twist, prohibition is to blame.

When a product is illegal, the profit margin skyrockets. Prohibition turns an agricultural product (a plant that’s very easy to grow) into a drug worth its weight in gold. Without prohibition, marijuana would cost pennies to produce. No wonder some adventurous modern day prospectors are setting up in their own back yards and basements to try and get in on the gold rush. Who could blame them? They aren’t hurting anyone, they’re making good money, and most of all customers are willing, grateful participants in the process.

We must come to grips with the fact that the demand for marijuana is never going away and find a better way of dealing with it. Imagine the billions of dollars spent on marijuana and enforcement going to more noble causes like health care and other social programs.

The general public understands this. Support for legalizing marijuana recently reached the much sought after 50%+1 majority. Recent polls show that 51% of Canadians support legalizing marijuana, a slim, but very real majority.

And with more and more advocates, the trend is just taking off. Several European countries like Belgium, Switzerland, Holland and Germany are successfully leading the way towards tolerance with legislation aimed at helping drugs users, not by treating them as criminals, but as human beings deserving of respect. There is no reason why Canada should lag behind. We should be on the cutting edge of this new international movement.

Now it is time to step onto the world stage and assert our sovereignty by legalizing marijuana once and for all. I would venture a friendly wager that the international community would stand by Canada on this issue. Our inevitable success would then make us a world leader in marijuana reform—an example for others to follow.

(I can hear it already): But marijuana is dangerous!

For the record, marijuana is NOT dangerous. It is no worse than coffee and much safer than alcohol. Marijuana is also much less addictive then cigarettes. Chronic use is rare as the majority do not smoke it everyday. Try that with tobacco!

What little risks that may be present with marijuana are no worse then any other risks deemed "morally acceptable". Should we ban music because, if played too loud it might hurt your hearing?

French fries and gravy are far more dangerous for our health then marijuana. Should we ban fast food and send overeaters to mandatory fitness camps?

Who are we, as a society to judge? What exactly are marijuana users guilty of? Who are they hurting? What have they done wrong?

To deny marijuana users the right to choose what they want to consume is nothing more than an arbitrary decision based on moral values, not public interest......

Legalization does not mean promoting use. It means providing medical care, support, education, quality standards and proper labeling. We then trust that responsible adults will make their own choices. This is what makes legalization healthy for our society. At least legalization would force retailers to be accountable for what they sell.

Under prohibition, the government has waived its responsibility for the well being of marijuana users, and is only responsible for their arrest and persecution.

This total disregard for their rights drives a wedge between them and the rest of society and breeds contempt for our legal institutions. If society does not tolerate pot smokers, how are pot smokers supposed to tolerate society? This does not make for a healthy social climate and even less a basis for sound policy.

If a policy so deeply flawed as prohibition not only fails to reach its goals, but actually makes the situation worse, it should be radically changed.

Prohibition is the problem, and legalization the solution.

In places where marijuana is tolerated use actually decreases.

Of course, don’t count on the politicians to have the courage to change the law—it’s not in their nature. Look instead to the Supreme Court. That is where most significant legal change comes from anyway. Gay rights and abortion issues were resolved there, and, some time this year our land’s highest court will also rule on the constitutionality of marijuana prohibition. I strongly urge government to make a wise decision and end this madness now. Millions of bright, productive, patriotic pot-smoking Canadians are counting on it.

Most sincerely, Marc-Boris St-Maurice Le Parti Marijuana


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To: Dane
Huh? Please lay off the bong before posting please.

See, there ya go again. You need help.

141 posted on 02/20/2002 8:19:29 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Dane
"Huh? Please lay off the bong before posting please"

You simpleminded fool. You wouldn't know satire if you sat on it.

142 posted on 02/20/2002 8:19:50 AM PST by coolworx
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To: Dane
I haven't been punished? I grew up in a culture where drug use was considered benign. I had Cheech and Chong pushed on me. I grew up in the late 70's when the drug culture was reaching it's "high" point. I grew up in a society where stories of the drug use of Studio 54 and rock stars were considered cool.

This is by far THE funniest thing you have ever posted. Now I know for sure your posts are not serious. Your getting high right now.

143 posted on 02/20/2002 8:19:53 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: ThomasJefferson
You aren't speaking out against drug use, you never have made that distinction, you support the immoral WOD. People like me who have never used drugs and do real work to help prevent kids from making the mistakes you made are villified and lied about by you because we oppose the loss of our rights and meddling in our lives by people with guns

Oh really? You are the hypocrite, IMHO. By basically agreeing with the article of this thread that marijuana is benign. Do you tell that to the "kids" you counsel?

144 posted on 02/20/2002 8:21:48 AM PST by Dane
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To: lugsoul
Trust me on this one - I studied it intensely in college. A person can only smoke so much pot.

I respectfully disagree. I roomed with a "dead head" senior year. I also knew a guy who smoked quite frequently. When he ran out one time, he vacuumed his room, and smoked the contents of the vacuum bag! His theory was that he smoked so much, there must be at least a grams worth on the floor!

145 posted on 02/20/2002 8:22:33 AM PST by Snowy
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To: Don Myers
But if it doesn't work, why are you people so adament bout legalizing your habit? I know, Tom. I should know better than to try using commonsense with deadheads.

So if you never have used illegal drugs, to what do you attribute your inability to stop lying about people? Like me? And since you lied about so many people so many times, why should anyone believe you now when you claim to have never used them?

146 posted on 02/20/2002 8:22:42 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Dane
Please make the case about why you shouldn't go to prison for your admitted criminality while advocating that others exactly like you should.
147 posted on 02/20/2002 8:25:12 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: FreeTally
This is by far THE funniest thing you have ever posted. Now I know for sure your posts are not serious. Your getting high right now.

Dane's statement regarding his adequite "punishment" is right up there with the assertion of another well-known Freeper drug warrior who once stated, in all seriousness, that other people doing drugs violated his constitutional right to the persuit of happiness because it made him sad to see fellow human beings ruining their lives.

Another one for the archives!

148 posted on 02/20/2002 8:25:21 AM PST by southern rock
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Or... Why do they so desperately need to escape reality by being high on marijuana? Is their reality really THAT bad?!?! That's very sad...

What did one dead head say to the other at the concert after running out of pot?

answer: "Man, this music really s**ks!"

149 posted on 02/20/2002 8:27:12 AM PST by Snowy
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To: ThomasJefferson
Ref 146. Tom, Take two aspirin before you light up. That might work for you. Let me know how it turns out.
150 posted on 02/20/2002 8:27:25 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Dane
Now tell me about your selling of drugs to others while you were in your "drug culture years".
151 posted on 02/20/2002 8:28:23 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Don Myers
Ref 146. Tom, Take two aspirin before you light up. That might work for you. Let me know how it turns out.

I have never used an illegal drug. You continue to say that I have. That makes you a liar.

152 posted on 02/20/2002 8:30:03 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Dane
Along the same line of thinking as my last post:

No, you are not evil because you make the statement and hold the belief that drugs are bad. You are evil because you wish to use the powers of government force to go after people for making the same mistakes that you admit that you made in the past.

My own view is that drugs are dangerous (some more than others) and for different reasons. There is nothing wrong with "catching a buzz" now and then from alcolohol, mj, or whatever. But when drugs take over your life, become habitual, and prevent you from prospering and growing as a human being, then you have a drug problem.

The fact is, people with drug problems face enough difficulties without the added problems of legality. People with drug problems are often inflicted with mental health problems. The legality of the issue does nothing to help these people. Others who use drugs, but do not have apparent problems interfering with the quality of their own lives should be left alone by the government.

Do you think that people in general should be left alone and not be harassed by the government? Do you think we should live in a free society, or do you really prefer an authoritarian society? Or, are you just hung up on the drug issue - knowing drugs are inherently bad for (most) people, while not knowing how to mitigate the effects of drug within communities.

The problem is that you approach the drug problem from the perspective of self-righteousness, rather than from a perspective that appreciates the complexity of the problem facing the country. It is difficult to ascertain whether you are interested in offsetting the problems drug use causes in our society, or whether you are simply interested in having the drug issue out there so you can advocate greater authoritarian powers for the state.

You need to repair the cognitive dissonance that separates your own personal experience from the policies you advocate the state uses to go after others who have committed the same transgressions as yourself (albeit in the past).

153 posted on 02/20/2002 8:30:19 AM PST by citizenK
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To: ThomasJefferson
Please make the case about why you shouldn't go to prison for your admitted criminality while advocating that others exactly like you should

Sorry Thom, you are the one who stated that you "counsel" kids. Do you tell them that marijuana is benign? You must since you are agreeing with the article of this thread.

154 posted on 02/20/2002 8:30:53 AM PST by Dane
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To: Snowy
Oh, I'm not saying you can't smoke a whole lot of pot - what I am saying is that the amount is limited by supply and the ability to stay awake - in rebuttal to the argument that "if it is cheaper, users will just use more." There's a reason that there are no documented cases of marijuana overdose: it is simply not possible to ingest that much of the drug.
155 posted on 02/20/2002 8:33:56 AM PST by lugsoul
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To: citizenK
You are evil because you wish to use the powers of government force to go after people for making the same mistakes that you admit that you made in the past

So I am evil because I beleive that drugs are evil and a menace to society. You are fine with a society where people make mistakes and those mistakes are never learned from.

Sheesh why don't we just make a time machine back to late 70's when drug use was at it highest and so was the homicide rate.

Sounds like your type of society.

156 posted on 02/20/2002 8:34:25 AM PST by Dane
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To: ThomasJefferson
Ref 152. Ok, take the aspirin then. Whatever trips your fancy, Tom.
157 posted on 02/20/2002 8:34:35 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Why do they so desperately need to escape reality by being high on marijuana? Is their reality really THAT bad?!?! Actuality it's enhanced, not escaped.

Ever go to a movie?

158 posted on 02/20/2002 8:36:33 AM PST by Rudder
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-smoking is bad for you health -cannibus s/b decrim'd but its not for children and it does have bad side effects healthwise. -the reason its still illegal is b/c its a $200 billion dollar a year cash crop, when it becomes legalized, even partially, the supply increases (more people grow) and the demand stabilizes somewhat** (prices drop). The final effect: the people who make the $ off illegal pot see their profits going drastically down, which means soft $ contributions for POLs go down...starting to see the light as to why nothings changed in 75 years? **-(the demand in some parts of the US, in particular the Northeast and So. CA, is so high for premium cannibus, that its economic curve is nearly infinite. This means that people will pay anything to have it, in certain parts of NYC, an oz. of c.indica grown indoors to perfection can fetch almost $800.00!!
159 posted on 02/20/2002 8:37:39 AM PST by kilo_tango
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To: Dane
the homicide rate of the late 80s/early 90s was much higher in most of the US than in the 70s
160 posted on 02/20/2002 8:39:26 AM PST by kilo_tango
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