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To: CCWoody
"The idea that a "desire" for something must be interpreted as "EFFECTUAL AND NEVER-FAILING WILL" defies any normal reading of scripture."

1 Timothy 2:4 ...Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

In my daily reading Bible this is translated as desire. Now, would you suggest that God cannot have even His desires?

Are you suggesting that everything that happens in the universe, including the fall in the Garden of Eden, Lucifer's rebellion, the holocaust, abortion etc. MUST be what God desires..OTHERWISE they could not occur?

Is it your position that God could not give His creations free will if it means they could possibly do anything contrary to His desire?

Of course not.

475 posted on 02/22/2002 6:29:00 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Are you suggesting that everything that happens in the universe, including the fall in the Garden of Eden, Lucifer's rebellion, the holocaust, abortion etc. MUST be what God desires..OTHERWISE they could not occur?

Would you be suggesting that anything--from the largest events in history down to the smallest event--is outside the will of God?

BTW, you are misusing the word desire; horribly.

478 posted on 02/22/2002 6:38:08 PM PST by CCWoody
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