[CCWoody]

Are you suggesting that everything that happens in the universe, including the fall in the Garden of Eden, Lucifer's rebellion, the holocaust, abortion etc. MUST be what God desires..OTHERWISE they could not occur?

Would you be suggesting that anything--from the largest events in history down to the smallest event--is outside the will of God?

BTW, you are misusing the word desire; horribly.

[Jorge]

"Are you suggesting that everything that happens in the universe, including the fall in the Garden of Eden, Lucifer's rebellion, the holocaust, abortion etc. MUST be what God desires..OTHERWISE they could not occur?"

Would you be suggesting that anything--from the largest events in history down to the smallest event--is outside the will of God?

I'm not "suggesting" it.....I am saying the Bible clearly teaches it.
Scripture tells us that it is not God's desire that anyone should perish....but clearly the Bible teaches us that many perish.(duh)

Notice that I directly answered your question...unlike you who avoided answering my question above.

You actually believe God desired for Lucifer to fall, for people to commit horribe sins etc. etc???

BTW, you are misusing the word desire; horribly.

Right. Well don't keep me in suspense too long as to exactly how I am "misusing" it.