Atheist says he acts in good faith

Honolulu Advertiser ^ | 2/11/02 | Will Hoover

[LarryLied]

Mitchell Kahle added another scalp to his belt when restrictions on apparel and accessories depicting Satanism were yanked from Kaimuki High School's dress code last week.

"To me, Satanism is a superstition," Kahle said. "Just like Christianity."

The point, he insisted, was that if one religious symbol is banned from a public school dress code, they all must go.

[Zack Nguyen]

I do not believe that one can form a moral stand from merely physical or physiological sources. The atheist profiled in the article marches for women's rights, gay rights, animal rights and other causes, yet has no real reason to believe that the women, gays, or animals have any dignity at all. In fact, how can he even be sure that they exist? Because he sees them? Because he others tell him (or he thinks that they tell him) that women, gays, and animals exist and are in need of "rights"? What are rights?

All he has is his own perspective. He can call on nothing higher than his own intellect, so he really has no basis from which to form an argument. If I disagree with him he has nothing higher on which to depend.

[thinktwice]

I trust people who have a transcendental morality

Please provide some examples of transcendental morality principles, as opposed to those that are realistically moral.

[Cleburne]

Women's rights, gay rights, animal rights — any kind of injustice

That is, if you are non-religious. If you have a religion, well, to heck with you. Now, if you want to plaster your office building with gay porno- that is another story entirely I'm sure. In that case you have oogles of 'civil rights'.

[Prodigal Son]

Anyone know more about these two? I recall their website being active in opposing rallies for Bush during the Florida recount. Are they active in the Democrat Party in Hawaii?

No clue.

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

How does a Rat know what theyre destroying in free economics if they have never participated? How do they know what the small energy efficeint cars are if they've never driven an electric...? How do they know what employment is when they refuse to stimulate the economy?... Live like and idiot and die in the same manner.

[Ultima Thule]

I've never heard of this guy before. The Honolulu Advertiser is nauseatingly liberal, though, so I suppose he's the perfect subject for a puff-piece feature article.

[onedoug]

"...we believe in no religion."

That you believe! Therein lies the contradiction.

[xm177e2]

That you believe! Therein lies the contradiction.

Ok, I'll reword it, we don't believe in any religion.

We don't believe that all religions are definitely false. We just don't know which one's right, so we don't believe in any. That isn't to say we aren't looking to find which one we think is right, just that we haven't found it yet.

[Torie]

Oh goody, an atheist bashing thread. Nothing like trying to achieve balance.

[Spyder]

I remember the Kolekole Pass cross incident. The jerk claimed the cross "offended him," that he was forced to see it when he drove by.

Actually the cross was only visible if you carefully checked your rearview mirror at just the right angle when southbound on H2 for a very brief period of time. It was located not far from a rather obscure road only accessible to the military that has since been closed because of increased security since 9/11 (it traverses the Lualualei Naval Magazine).

It was rather rusty and not in the best of shape - I could understand the argument that it was too costly to maintain, but the timing of its being taken down was too close to our pro-Satanist friend's protests not to wonder...

[Sci Fi Guy]

"I can promise you I'm the only person in my family who has read the Bible from cover to cover," said Kahle, who contends that if you're going to argue with theologians with lofty degrees, you better know your stuff.

Oh brother! didn't the article say he came from a religious family? Oh I guess it was one of those religious families who cared so much about their faith, that they never bothered to read the Bible through even once. I wonder how much effort he actually made to honestly understand the Bible and Christian Belief?

[rdb3]

It always amazes me that the people most obsessed about God are the atheists.

You know, you're right. I've made comments about this here on FR several times.

Whenever a religious themed thread is posted, the atheists here flock to it. You'd think that since they have no belief in God, they wouldn't pay it any attention, right? I mean, why take the time to type responses about something in which they profess no belief? I wouldn't waste time posting about the tooth fairy.

My honest opinion is that they have to convince themselves daily that God doesn't exist. Just my opinion, of course.

[Judith Anne]

Hahle seems like the sort of man who believes in free speech for himself but NOT for religious people. I'd bet my bottom dollar he doesn't stand up for the rights of the unborn.

[Ban Draoi]

The next time you run across one of these atheistic elitists, ask him to explain to you how a cat purrs.

He will not be able to (Not too long ago I asked a veterinary assistant if it has ever been explained how a cat purrs and she told me it that they still don't know how a cat purrs.)

If they can't explain something as simple as that, who are they to tell any of us who believe that there is no G-d?

[malakhi]

Are you saying positively that Adolf H. went to heaven?

I'm saying that infinite punishment for finite sin is unjust. What an appropriate punishment/atonement for such a vast amount of sin would be is up to God, not me. I'm guessing that it would be more than just a slap on the wrist.

[LarryLied]

Read recently that scientists have discovered cats purr at the frequency which helps create bone density. No way to know if they is why cats purr but its a theory.