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U.S. Widens Global Crossing Inquiry
New York Times ^ | Tuesday, February 12, 2002 | By SIMON ROMERO

Posted on 02/11/2002 8:28:25 PM PST by JohnHuang2

February 12, 2002

U.S. Widens Global Crossing Inquiry

By SIMON ROMERO

The federal investigation of the accounting practices of Global Crossing, the troubled communications company, expanded yesterday into an inquiry on a type of financial transaction also used by Enron (news/quote) and many other companies.

The signal of the broader investigation was a subpoena that Qwest Communications (news/quote), the main local phone company in 14 Western states, said yesterday that it had received from the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The subpoena, received on Friday, ordered Qwest to hand over documents from transactions with Global Crossing involving the right to use each other's fiber optic networks to fill gaps in their own coverage. The S.E.C. wants to know whether those contracts in some cases were sham deals to inflate reported revenue.

Such long-term contracts were widely bought and sold during the Internet boom, as network operators like Qwest, Global Crossing and other communications upstarts tried to build, buy or borrow network capacity in anticipation of demand for data traffic — demand that seldom materialized to the extent forecast. A glut of unused network capacity, in fact, was behind the bankruptcy filings of Global Crossing and several other communications companies.

Enron, the energy company that evolved into a financial trading enterprise, was a large buyer and seller of such contracts before it filed for bankruptcy in December. Indeed, Enron's unraveling last year helped speed the collapse of the market for the contracts.

The S.E.C. investigation "gives us much-needed scrutiny into the legitimacy of contracts that could have allowed companies to look healthier on paper than they were in reality," said Susan Kalla, senior telecommunications analyst at Friedman, Billings & Ramsey.

Global Crossing's bankruptcy filing last month, involving $22 billion in reported assets, was the fourth- largest ever by an American company. (Enron's ranks as the largest.) Global Crossing came under investigation last week by the S.E.C. and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

The S.E.C. began its inquiry after Roy Olofson, a former Global Crossing executive, questioned the way the company had booked its revenue in deals with Qwest and other companies. Mr. Olofson, a former vice president for finance, wrote in a letter last August to Global Crossing executives that the company had improperly inflated sales in deals of the type that the S.E.C. has asked Qwest to document.

The contents of Mr. Olofson's letter were made public by his lawyers last week.

According Mr. Olofson, Qwest and Global Crossing swapped about $100 million of capacity in each of the first two quarters of last year. But each company accounted for the deals differently even though they used the same outside auditor, Arthur Andersen — the accounting firm whose work for Enron is under scrutiny.

Mr. Olofson's lawyer, Brian C. Lysaght, said in a statement: "Global Crossing was giving the impression that it was generating cash revenues when, in actuality, these transactions did not increase the cash position of the company in any material sense."

Qwest sought yesterday to distance itself from the Global Crossing inquiry.

"We're cooperating with an investigation of Global Crossing, not of us," said Michael Tarpey, a Qwest spokesman. "We think we were squeaky clean on the issue of these swaps."

Yet Qwest had already come under scrutiny by financial analysts in recent months over its use of such transactions. Shares of Qwest fell 2.5 percent yesterday to $9.36 after it disclosed the S.E.C. request; the decrease extended a decline of 34 percent so far this year.

Global Crossing, which embarked in 1997 on an ambitious plan to extend its sole asset — a trans-Atlantic cable — into a 100,000-mile worldwide fiber optic network, often sought to acquire capacity on competitors' networks in North America that it said it needed to fill gaps in its system. Likewise, Qwest said it needed to buy capacity on Global Crossing's trans-Pacific and trans-Atlantic routes to meet its customers' needs.

Analysts said the S.E.C., which does not comment on active investigations, would presumably examine how Global Crossing and Qwest accounted for the transactions and how they disclosed the deals to investors. Also in question is whether the companies eventually even needed such long-term contracts at a time when network capacity was in ample supply. Another question is whether it was proper to record revenue for what were essentially barter deals in which no cash exchanged hands.

A Global Crossing spokeswoman, Tisha Kresler, said there was nothing unusual about the deals.

"It's common in the telecommunication industry for carriers to buy capacity from each other in order to provide service in an area where one company has routes or capacity that another needs in order to service customers," Ms. Kresler said. "That's our relationship with Qwest."

Qwest was primarily a long-haul network operator like Global Crossing before it used its soaring stock in 1999 to became a major local phone company by buying the regional Bell company U S West. It outbid Global Crossing to cinch that deal. But any hard feelings did not stop Qwest and Global Crossing from dealing with each other, and others, in the market for the communications contracts. That included other companies that have filed for bankruptcy protection, like 360networks (news/quote) of Canada.

Until around six months ago, these transactions, known in the telecommunications world as swaps of I.R.U.'s, or indefeasible rights of use, were especially widespread among operators of transoceanic and transcontinental networks, like Global Crossing and Qwest.

The deals, often covering terms of 15 to 25 years, allowed companies to book a purchase of capacity as a capital expense, thus avoiding an erosion of cash flow on their financial statements. They could record the sale of such contracts as an increase in revenue, even though no cash exchanged hands.

The market for these swaps began to decline last year as it became apparent that the industry had built more network capacity during the Internet boom than users needed. The decline hastened with the mounting troubles at Enron, whose active trading of shorter-term communications contracts had stimulated the market.

That meant trouble for Global Crossing, which was unable to show strong revenue growth without the contracts.

In part of his August 2001 letter, Mr. Olofson said Global Crossing's chief financial officer, Dan J. Cohrs, had sent an e-mail message to Thomas Casey, who was chief executive, and to other high-ranking executives, expressing concern about a news release that Qwest had issued, giving details of its I.R.U. agreements.

Mr. Cohrs was worried that the Qwest statement would draw unwanted attention to Global Crossing's I.R.U.'s, Mr. Olofson said, according to his lawyer.



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To: JohnHuang2
bump (for later follow up)
21 posted on 02/12/2002 1:35:58 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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To: JohnHuang2
They'd have had my data line if they had advertised low prices in my area.
22 posted on 02/12/2002 3:56:19 AM PST by Maelstrom
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To: JohnHuang2
Imus is talking about Global with Lieberman this morning. His usual liberal coverage Imus throws softballs to him. He did ask if Clinton should give back the 1 million he got from Global Crossings and he just laugh....What a sorry excuse for a Senator.....
23 posted on 02/12/2002 4:00:56 AM PST by Patriot
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To: Patriot
try to nail McAuliffe for possible insider trading but he is not a trader, all he did was take a tip from an insider and buy stock from the inside information.

this is stealing and should land him jail time

24 posted on 02/12/2002 4:18:50 AM PST by alrea
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To: JohnHuang2, Registered, backhoe
Rep. Peter Deutch (D-from somewhere) just said on FOX and Friends two things of note: 1) That "administration officials" sold hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Enron stock just in time and 2) when asked about the Global Crossing bankruptcy and possible hearings, Deutch said the GX situation was "different".

Comments anyone?

25 posted on 02/12/2002 4:26:23 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
If I'm not mistaken Deutsh is from Florida and is a Clintoniod....A real suck-up.....The democrats are getting ready for a real hurt with Global Crossing...They just don't want to talk about it.
26 posted on 02/12/2002 4:32:28 AM PST by Patriot
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To: JohnHuang2
IF a real inquiry is ever made into Enron, Global Crossing, and others that are presumably lurking out there--a thing I sort of doubt--I predict it will be revealed that ALL these people were in bed with the Clinton administration, that they were ALL aided and abetted by the Clinton/DNC money machine that put hundreds of these people on endless "trade missions" around the world.

But as I say, I don't think a full inquiry will be launched, only forays into areas of interest to those who want to tied Republicans to it.

27 posted on 02/12/2002 4:33:58 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Patriot, seamole, Howlin, Free The USA
Thanks for the FL info. He seemed familiar. I guessed the suck-up part :)

What really disturbs me is this accusation about "administration officials" who supposedly sold hundreds of millions in stock. The F&F guys didn't have a chance to call him on it, and I want to know what he meant, for Deutch to put his money where his mouth is and say who exactly he's talking about.

And one last thing, is Deutch asserting, when he says the Global Crossing bankruptcy is "different", that he, Deutch, is absolutely sure there was nothing criminal going on there? And if he is, why the heck is that? How can Deutch be so sure? Inquiring minds want to know, Congressman...

28 posted on 02/12/2002 4:37:49 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: JohnHuang2
Link ?? Global {Double} Crossing, Terry McAuliffe and AFL- IPO

the Union Labor Life crowd seems to be stuck in Global Crossing ..... they took a huge hit at least $145 Million (on McAuliffe's advice?)

why do I find unsettling the image of Ken Lay, Martin Davis and Terry McAuliffe all together in Aspen ?

.

29 posted on 02/12/2002 4:37:56 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: *Enron_List
Such long-term contracts were widely bought and sold during the Internet boom, as network operators like Qwest, Global Crossing and other communications upstarts tried to build, buy or borrow network capacity in anticipation of demand for data traffic — demand that seldom materialized to the extent forecast. A glut of unused network capacity, in fact, was behind the bankruptcy filings of Global Crossing and several other communications companies.

Enron, the energy company that evolved into a financial trading enterprise, was a large buyer and seller of such contracts before it filed for bankruptcy in December. Indeed, Enron's unraveling last year helped speed the collapse of the market for the contracts.


30 posted on 02/12/2002 4:44:10 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Registered
I don't want to hear anything about GC until they widen the net to include that huckster Terry McAuliffe !!!

Don't hold your breath.

He's a Dumbocrap.

31 posted on 02/12/2002 4:57:20 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: JohnHuang2

Global Crossing Development Co


 

Soft Money Donations
for 01/01/1995 through 06/30/2001.

To Democrats
Total for all 7 Donors $1,388,018.00
Donor Total
Global Crossing Development Co
$555,000.00
Beverly Hills, CA 90212  
Jun 26, 2001
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$75,000.00    
Mar 30, 2001
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$25,000.00    
Jan 08, 2001
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$5,000.00    
Oct 03, 2000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$100,000.00    
Jun 19, 2000
Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
$25,000.00    
May 31, 2000
Democratic National Committee
$150,000.00    
Mar 31, 2000
Democratic National Committee
$150,000.00    
Mar 31, 2000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$25,000.00    
Hindery, Leo J (San Francisco,CA)
CEO, Global Crossing
$440,000.00
San Francisco, CA 94105  
Apr 26, 2001
Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
$15,000.00    
Apr 26, 2001
Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
$25,000.00    
Apr 04, 2001
Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
$100,000.00    
Oct 24, 2000
Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
$100,000.00    
Oct 09, 2000
Democratic National Committee
$50,000.00    
Sep 27, 2000
Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
$60,000.00    
Sep 14, 2000
Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
$25,000.00    
Jun 30, 2000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$25,000.00    
Jun 12, 2000
Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
$40,000.00    
Hindery, Leo (Sunnyvale,CA)
CEO, Global Crossing
$262,768.00
Sunnyvale, CA 94089  
Jan 26, 2001
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$100,000.00    
Oct 26, 2000
Democratic National Committee
$10,000.00    
Oct 03, 2000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$100,000.00    
Sep 12, 2000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$10,000.00    
Aug 21, 2000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$42,768.00    
Hindery, Leo
CEO, Global Crossing
$55,000.00
Hillsborough, CA 94010  
Mar 13, 2000
Democratic National Committee
$50,000.00    
Nov 20, 1997
Democratic National Committee
$5,000.00    
Gallagher, Bernard P
Executive, GlobalCenter
$50,000.00
Princeton, NJ 08540  
May 29, 2001
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$25,000.00    
Oct 19, 2000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$25,000.00    
Porter, Barry
Senior VP
$15,250.00
Beverly Hills, CA 90212  
Mar 08, 2001
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$5,000.00    
Jan 18, 2001
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$250.00    
Oct 06, 2000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$10,000.00    
Krone, David
Executive VP, GlobalCenter
$10,000.00
Sunnyvale, CA 94089  
Jun 30, 2000
Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee
$10,000.00    
To Republicans
Total for all 8 Donors $668,503.00
Donor Total
Global Crossing Development Co
$395,000.00
Beverly Hills, CA 90212  
Jun 04, 2001
Republican National Committee
$25,000.00    
Mar 23, 2001
National Republican Congressional Cmte
$100,000.00    
Feb 06, 2001
Republican National Committee
$5,000.00    
Sep 21, 2000
Republican National Committee
$150,000.00    
Apr 12, 2000
Republican National Committee
$5,000.00    
Mar 21, 2000
National Republican Congressional Cmte
$50,000.00    
Jan 20, 2000
National Republican Congressional Cmte
$10,000.00    
Jun 22, 1999
Republican Senate-House Dinner Cmte
$25,000.00    
Oct 22, 1998
National Republican Senatorial Committee
$25,000.00    
Global Crossing Ltd
$196,775.00
Beverly Hills, CA 90210  
Jun 29, 2001
National Republican Senatorial Committee
$25,000.00    
Jun 11, 2001
National Republican Senatorial Committee
$275.00    
Jun 07, 2001
Republican Senate-House Dinner Cmte
$85,000.00    
Sep 14, 2000
National Republican Senatorial Committee
$50,000.00    
Jul 27, 2000
National Republican Senatorial Committee
$1,500.00    
May 23, 2000
National Republican Senatorial Committee
$25,000.00    
May 05, 2000
Republican Senate-House Dinner Cmte
$10,000.00    
Lee, David L
Co-founder, Global Crossing
$63,960.00
Beverly Hills, CA 90212  
Jan 29, 2001
Republican National Committee
$8,960.00    
May 31, 2000
Republican National Committee
$55,000.00    
Freedman, Michael
$7,200.00
Beverly Hills, CA 90210  
Jul 11, 2000
Republican National Committee
$7,200.00    
Porter, Barry
Senior VP
$2,500.00
Beverly Hills, CA 90212  
Nov 20, 2000
Republican National Committee
$2,500.00    
Lee, David L (Pasadena,CA)
Co-founder, Global Crossing
$2,500.00
Pasadena, CA 91107  
Nov 20, 2000
Republican National Committee
$2,500.00    
Freedman, Michael (NY)
$350.00
Rochester, NY 14646  
Dec 15, 2000
Republican National Committee
$350.00    
Global Crossing (DC)
$218.00
Washington, DC 20003  
Jan 14, 2000
National Republican Congressional Cmte
$218.00    

32 posted on 02/12/2002 5:17:04 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: JohnHuang2
Global Crossing Contributions 
to Federal Parties and Candidates, 1997-2001*


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Election Cycle

Total Contributions

Contributions from Individuals

Contributions from PACs

Soft Money Contributions

To Dems

To Repubs

1998

$33,750

$8,750

$0

$25,000

22%

77%

2000

$2,815,645

$692,750

$39,700

$2,083,195

55%

45%

2002

$724,270

$53,666

$16,500

$654,104

64%

36%

Total

$3,573,665

$755,166

$56,200

$2,762,299

55%

45%

 

 *Based on FEC data downloaded 1/1/02.


33 posted on 02/12/2002 5:20:03 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Registered
! LOL !

Took the words right out of my mouth.

34 posted on 02/12/2002 5:23:46 AM PST by rvoitier
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To: JohnHuang2
House Recipients of Global Crossing PAC & Individual Contributions, 1997-2001*

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Name

Grand Total

97-98

99-00

01-02

Edward J. Markey (D-Mass)

$12,500

$0

$11,000

$1,500

Harold E. Ford Jr (D-Tenn)

$10,250

$0

$10,250

$0

Thomas M. Reynolds (R-NY)

$8,000

$0

$5,500

$2,500

Jane Harman (D-Calif)

$5,000

$0

$5,000

$0

Patrick J. Kennedy (D-RI)

$4,000

$0

$0

$4,000

Shelley Berkley (D-Nev)

$4,000

$0

$2,000

$2,000

William P. "Bill" Luther (D-Minn)

$3,500

$0

$3,000

$500

Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif)

$3,000

$0

$3,000

$0

Martin T. Meehan (D-Mass)

$3,000

$0

$3,000

$0

Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo)

$2,500

$0

$0

$2,500

Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr (R-Miss)

$2,250

$0

$1,000

$1,250

Cal Dooley (D-Calif)

$2,000

$0

$1,000

$1,000

Nita M. Lowey (D-NY)

$2,000

$0

$0

$2,000

Dennis Hastert (R-Ill)

$2,000

$0

$0

$2,000

W. J. "Billy" Tauzin (R-La)

$2,000

$0

$1,000

$1,000

Benjamin A. Gilman (R-NY)

$1,700

$0

$1,700

$0

Louise M. Slaughter (D-NY)

$1,500

$0

$1,500

$0

Ron Kind (D-Wis)

$1,500

$0

$1,000

$500

Heather A. Wilson (R-NM)

$1,500

$0

$500

$1,000

Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va)

$1,000

$0

$500

$500

Richard M. Burr (R-NC)

$1,000

$0

$0

$1,000

John D. Dingell (D-Mich)

$1,000

$0

$1,000

$0

Diana Degette (D-Colo)

$1,000

$0

$500

$500

Greg Ganske (R-Iowa)

$1,000

$0

$1,000

$0

Steve Largent (R-Okla)

$1,000

$0

$1,000

$0

Joe Knollenberg (R-Mich)

$1,000

$0

$1,000

$0

Barbara Cubin (R-Wyo)

$1,000

$0

$1,000

$0

Bart Stupak (D-Mich)

$1,000

$0

$1,000

$0

Adam Schiff (D-Calif)

$500

$0

$500

$0

Lois Capps (D-Calif)

$500

$0

$500

$0

Elton Gallegly (R-Calif)

$500

$0

$500

$0

Christopher R. Cannon (R-Utah)

$500

$0

$500

$0

Joe L. Barton (R-Texas)

$500

$0

$0

$500

Robert L. Ehrlich Jr (R-Md)

$500

$0

$500

$0

Rick Boucher (D-Va)

$500

$0

$500

$0

Fred Upton (R-Mich)

$500

$0

$500

$0

Constance A. Morella (R-Md)

$500

$0

$500

$0

Eric Cantor (R-Va)

$250

$0

$250

$0

Christopher H. Smith (R-NJ)

$250

$0

$250

$0

 *Based on FEC data downloaded 1/1/02. Totals include contributions from Global Crossing's PAC and its employees.

Senate Recipients of Global Crossing PAC & Individual Contributions, 1997-2001*

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Name

Grand Total

97-98

99-00

01-02

John McCain (R-Ariz)

$31,000

$0

$31,000

$0

Conrad Burns (R-Mont)

$30,750

$0

$30,750

$0

Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif)

$24,000

$0

$24,000

$0

Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass)

$20,000

$0

$20,000

$0

John Kerry (D-Mass)

$20,000

$0

$10,000

$10,000

Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah)

$19,500

$0

$19,500

$0

Bill Frist (R-Tenn)

$17,000

$0

$17,000

$0

Trent Lott (R-Miss)

$15,000

$0

$15,000

$0

Maria Cantwell (D-Wash)

$12,250

$0

$10,250

$2,000

Bill Nelson (D-Fla)

$12,000

$0

$12,000

$0

Charles E. Schumer (D-NY)

$11,000

$0

$11,000

$0

Mary L. Landrieu (D-La)

$10,000

$0

$3,000

$7,000

Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn)

$9,500

$0

$9,500

$0

Ernest F. Hollings (D-SC)

$9,000

$2,000

$7,000

$0

Mitch McConnell (R-Ky)

$9,000

$0

$8,000

$1,000

Mike DeWine (R-Ohio)

$8,000

$0

$8,000

$0

George Allen (R-Va)

$7,000

$0

$7,000

$0

Kent Conrad (D-ND)

$6,000

$0

$6,000

$0

Harry Reid (D-Nev)

$6,000

$1,000

$4,000

$1,000

Deborah Ann Stabenow (D-Mich)

$5,250

$0

$5,250

$0

Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY)

$5,000

$0

$5,000

$0

Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn)

$4,000

$0

$4,000

$0

Ted Stevens (R-Alaska)

$2,500

$0

$0

$2,500

Zell Miller (D-Ga)

$2,000

$0

$2,000

$0

Byron L. Dorgan (D-ND)

$2,000

$2,000

$0

$0

Daniel K. Inouye (D-Hawaii)

$2,000

$2,000

$0

$0

Max Cleland (D-Ga)

$2,000

$0

$0

$2,000

Jon Corzine (D-NJ)

$2,000

$0

$2,000

$0

Evan Bayh (D-Ind)

$1,416

$0

$0

$1,416

Ben Nelson (D-Neb)

$1,000

$0

$1,000

$0

Don Nickles (R-Okla)

$1,000

$1,000

$0

$0

Judd Gregg (R-NH)

$1,000

$0

$0

$1,000

Jack Reed (D-RI)

$1,000

$0

$1,000

$0

 *Based on FEC data downloaded 1/1/02. Totals include contributions from Global Crossing's PAC and its employees.

35 posted on 02/12/2002 5:24:08 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

36 posted on 02/12/2002 5:31:35 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Thank you for the Global Crossing contribution lists-- You got the Pacific Capital Group(Gary Winnick's financing arm) contributions?
37 posted on 02/12/2002 5:38:26 AM PST by d14truth
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To: JohnHuang2;RonDog;ALOHA RONNIE;all
'What did Senator's wife do to earn $2.5 million from a bankrupt corporation?' - A 'Global Crossing' story
38 posted on 02/12/2002 5:41:30 AM PST by d14truth
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To: d14truth
To Democrats
Total for all 1 Donors $255,000.00
Donor Total
Giant Group Ltd $255,000.00
Pacific Capital Group Inc
subsidiary
$255,000.00
To Democrats
Total for all 1 Donors $55,000.00
Donor Total
Giant Group Ltd $55,000.00
Pacific Capital Group Inc
subsidiary
$55,000.00

PACIFIC CAPITAL GROUP
6/7/99 $25,000.00
BEVERLY HILLS, CA 90212
-[[Receipt--exempt from limits]]
DSCC NON-FEDERAL CORPORATE
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PACIFIC CAPITAL GROUP
11/3/00 $100,000.00
BEVERLY HILLS, CA 90210
-[[Receipt--exempt from limits]]
DNC-NONFEDERAL-CORPORATE
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PACIFIC CAPITAL GROUP INC
10/23/00 $100,000.00
BEVERLY HILLS, CA 90212
-[[Receipt--exempt from limits]]
DCCCC NON-FEDERAL ACCOUNT #1
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PACIFIC CAPITAL GROUP INC
5/20/99 $12,500.00
BEVERLY HILLS, CA 90212
-[[Receipt--exempt from limits]]
DSCC NON-FEDERAL CORPORATE
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PACIFIC CAPITAL GROUP INC
5/27/99 $12,500.00
BEVERLY HILLS, CA 90212
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39 posted on 02/12/2002 5:50:59 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Liz
Good info in this article and subsequent posts...
40 posted on 02/12/2002 5:57:43 AM PST by Registered
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