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EXPERT IN PYSCHOLOGY OF ETHNIC CONFLICT CHANGES HIS MIND ABOUT YUGOSLAVIA
Emperor's Clothes ^ | February 9, 2002 | Francisco Gil-White & Jared Israel

Posted on 02/10/2002 10:31:32 AM PST by joan

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To: Tropoljac
If you want to know about Slobo, ask the Serbs themselves. The far-right views him as a traitor, the right as an authoritarian and criminal, and the centre as an authoritarian dictator.

correctamundo ... because of the lies being told about him as documented by the author of this article. if the government and media did not lie, people would not view him such. that is why this important. and that is why you'd do better arguing facts instead of huffing and puffing and getting all red and funny faced and saying: eight out of ten serbs agree ..., or nine out of ten one worlders agree ...

you do not fool us.

21 posted on 02/10/2002 2:17:50 PM PST by johnboy
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To: crazykatz; pericles; oxi-nato
FYI.
23 posted on 02/10/2002 2:55:57 PM PST by aristeides
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To: medved
That looks like a credible set of reasons. So why can't the current administration admit the policy was wrong? In the days of the Internet, it's obvious to all too many people that the emperor has no clothes. Whose credibility do they think they are defending by not admitting error?
24 posted on 02/10/2002 2:57:42 PM PST by aristeides
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To: joan
What America knows of Serbia, Kosovo, Serbs, Milosevic and "ethnic cleansing" in the Balkans has been taught to us by the Liar In Chief of Lying to America - Bill Clinton himself and his legion of puppets, the American "free" press, academia's hysterical liberals and the Euro snobs. Therefore I knew that none of the information could be trusted. None of it has been substantiated. None of it ever shall.
25 posted on 02/10/2002 3:17:10 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: johnboy
Tropoljac is neo-nazi supporter with inclination towards utter lies against serbs and he becomes rabid when the truth starts comming out.

Good to have him here on FR.
He is a perfect example of Croatian "nationalist"-hates others, does not respect himself.

Waste of time talking to him.

26 posted on 02/10/2002 3:17:42 PM PST by DTA
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To: johnboy
Tropoljac is neo-nazi supporter with inclination towards utter lies against serbs and he becomes rabid when the truth starts comming out.

Good to have him here on FR.
He is a perfect example of Croatian "nationalist"-hates others, does not respect himself.

Waste of time talking to him.

27 posted on 02/10/2002 3:18:00 PM PST by DTA
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To: Tropoljac
YOU used my name...YOU toady for HOLOCAUST deniers!!

DO NOT ever refer to me again...I HATE everything you stand for....you pavelic apologist!

29 posted on 02/10/2002 5:57:45 PM PST by crazykatz
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To: Pinlighter
Why were the Serbs targeted in this way?

Pardon the delay, but in my absence Medved and ValerieUSA captured my sentiments exactly.

Except, I would give the narco-terrorist angle its own bullet. Those Mena airport and cia drug stories just stick in my craw.

31 posted on 02/10/2002 6:08:26 PM PST by ohmage
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To: joan
This is a most welcome reversal. Clinton's war on Serbia was a hideous atrocity and an abomination. That it was based on lies is not surprising to those of us who saw through Clinton and his vicious SoS, Halfbright.
32 posted on 02/10/2002 6:12:22 PM PST by gumbo
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To: joan, medved
I often have stated that my refugee friends feel that milosevic deserted them in the Krajina....and I understand their feelings. That being said, IT is still not correct for the media of the world to lie and use subterfuge to condemn a leader. IF, the truth will not condemn them....then, that means that they are PROBABLY NOT GUILTY of much.

As a supporter of Reagan and GW, I can see how our own media used lies against them...but somehow our people saw through the lies.

If the case against a leader is based on media lies...then, I am suspect of any charges against those leaders.

ONE MAIN reason that I do not believe ANY of the many charges against the SERBIAN people or their leaders is because KLINTOON and madd maddie were so HOT TO TROT to bomb them. IF, a person believes klintoon on any subject...then that person, in my book, is a liberal, lying weasel-scum!!

And futhermore, they are also to blame for the MURDER of 73 innocent Serbian and Roma children killed when nato was ordered to bomb Yugoslavia by klintoon/damian.

33 posted on 02/10/2002 6:12:35 PM PST by crazykatz
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To: Tropoljac; DTA, crazykatz
I don't have much time for posting as of late, but I do try to keep up on the articles and responses the best that I can. I think that DTA and crazycatz may be mistaking Tropolojac for ZaDomSpremni. I have never seen a response written by Tropljac that contained even a hint of racism. I may not always agree with his opinion, but he's far from being an Ustashe apologist.
34 posted on 02/10/2002 6:19:27 PM PST by getoffmylawn
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To: gumbo
Correct!!
35 posted on 02/10/2002 6:22:51 PM PST by crazykatz
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To: spqrzilla9;Fusion;Boston_liberty;Balto_Boy;Balkans
What say you now spqrzilla9?
36 posted on 02/10/2002 6:24:06 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: aristeides
There are two basic problems with the Kosovo operation which the United States perpetrated in 99. One is that the precedent cannot possibly be allowed to stand since, if it does, the UN will shortly be demanding that we hand half of Florida, Texas, and California over to Mexico on the same stupid basis of ethnicity being everything and nationhood, sovereignty etc. being nothing. The other is that the operation was the nation-state equivalent of a mortal sin which we could all go to hell for. In order to take the Broaddrick story off the front pages of the papers, Slick et. al. amongst other things, killed and mained several thousand little slavic orthodox kids, most of who were hundreds of kilometers from any legitimate military target.

And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me,
it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck,
and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.


38 posted on 02/10/2002 6:30:36 PM PST by medved
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To: johnboy
Your comments are right on!!

Isn't it a shame that some "people" who post on this site find that it is "funny" that a nazi/utashci concentration camp commandant is convicted by bias Croatian juries in Croatia of killing a MERE 4 prisoners of that camp...You know, that is just like saying well, hitler could have been responsible for the extermination of only 6 million Jews as opposed to a possible 10 million he COULD have killed if he had had the chance.

The deaths of concentration victims is NOT relative to what they COULD have done.

All studies have shown that hundreds of thousands died at jasenovic concentration camp...4 or 400,000...THEY ARE ALL DEAD...MURDERED!

pavelic was the leader of nazi croatia...to say, "ONLY 4" died at the hands of the man he appointed to run the death camp ....is tantamount to supporting the deaths and the anguish of its victims....and pavelics devilish methods of ethnic cleansings.

Supporters of lying-klintoon's bombing of the people of Serbia, are of the same ilk as that camp commandant and his leader, pavelic. They are lower than scum.

39 posted on 02/10/2002 6:36:46 PM PST by crazykatz
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