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Princess Margaret Dies
BBC.com ^ | Saturday, 9 February, 2002, 08:56 GMT | staff

Posted on 02/09/2002 12:14:34 AM PST by badfreeper

Princess Margaret, the younger sister of Queen Elizabeth II, has died "peacefully in her sleep" at the age of 71. In a statement Buckingham Palace said: "The Queen, with great sadness, has asked for the following announcement to be made immediately.

"Her beloved sister, Princess Margaret, died peacefully in her sleep this morning at 6.30am in the King Edward VII Hospital."

Her children Lord Linley and Lady Sarah Chatto were at her side at the London hospital.

Princess Margaret, who has suffered several strokes in recent years, suffered a further stroke on Friday afternoon.

She developed cardiac problems during the night and was taken from Kensington Palace to the hospital at 0230GMT.

She was born Margaret Rose on 21 August, 1930, at Glamis Castle in Scotland, the ancestral home of her mother's family.

Margaret was last seen in public before Christmas at Princess Alice, the Dowager Duchess of Gloucester's 100th birthday party.

She was confined to a wheelchair and wore heavy dark glasses, her sight having been affected by a stroke. Margaret's face also appeared puffy, understood to be the effects of medication.

© MMII


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To: itsahoot
The real problem with Kings is....

Thanks for the post of stuff from your mythos.

Not really relevant at this point, though

181 posted on 02/09/2002 3:41:39 PM PST by Da_Shrimp
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To: Da_Shrimp
Not really relevant at this point, though

Not to you obviously. Too bad.

182 posted on 02/09/2002 3:47:26 PM PST by itsahoot
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To: itsahoot
Oh, don't worrym, Kings/Queens are absolutely to do with Gods etc, but the relevance of a middle Eastern desert god is questionable in these Northern climes.
183 posted on 02/09/2002 3:52:52 PM PST by Da_Shrimp
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To: palo verde
I guess I am the only one who saw Princess Di the other way I don't believe she loved her husband, and I don't think she treated him well I always felt she used PR effectively to change the story

No, you're not the only one. I agree with the above remarks

And I am sorry for Princess Margaret's death, as are most here, regardless of their views on the monarchy.

184 posted on 02/09/2002 4:02:41 PM PST by Amore
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To: Arkle
..nice one, Byron...

You're welcome, amigo.

Would you use anything but a quesillada to make a tortilla? Then why use substitute cheeses when you can have the real thing! Taste Cacique & you'll understand why nothing but Hispanic cheeses will do for Hispanic cuisine.

'Hispanic Cheese.'

Tee hee. :)

185 posted on 02/09/2002 4:11:51 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Tofa Swiftgoat
...maybe those here staunchly defending them (God only know why) should realize that those royals don't consider these commoners to be worthy of wiping their arses on...

"...the new pressures thrust upon the couple were only exacerbated by the outbreak of World War II. Despite strong advice that the Queen and the two princesses should leave London for Canada, the Queen refused to go. “The Princesses cannot go without me. I cannot go without the King. And the King will never leave,” she said as she resolved to remain at Buckingham Palace. Instead she learned to shoot a revolver, practising her aim in the Palace gardens.

After air raids, the King and Queen – she dressed in the finest satin and furs – would visit the scene of devastation and offer consolation to those who had lost their homes. It was only after Buckingham Palace was bombed, however, that the Queen felt she could really relate to the people of London. “I’m glad we’ve been bombed. It makes me feel I can look the East End in the face,” she famously said."

http://www.royalreport.com/profileqmother.html

187 posted on 02/09/2002 4:21:03 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Polybius
It is ironic that the Church of England became so dogmatic about divorce since the Church of England was founded in order to make possible the divorce of Henry VIII from Catherine of Aragon.

Bingo! I knew I wasn't the only one who felt that way. RIP Margaret- you should have married the one you loved regardless of what others said.

188 posted on 02/09/2002 4:34:57 PM PST by mafree
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To: Cacique
As to the fact that I consider myself superior to those who are less inteligent. Well, in the Darwinian state of evolution some of us fare better in some areas than others.

How is it that you are so bright, but got it wrong, and needed my correction, about the crown holding power, by force? Could you be wrong, about some of your other assertions? About your brightness? "Concent" is spelled "consent", by the way.

If you want things to go your way, it should be a prime interest to persuade all people (including lowly sheep-people) of the benefits of your way. One persuasive technique is to not call them by derisive names, like "sheep."

189 posted on 02/09/2002 5:19:32 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: joathome
But I don't miss the soggy, limp bacon!

I was briefed about the bacon before I came over. Also the organ meats ;)

190 posted on 02/09/2002 5:22:08 PM PST by strela
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To: palo verde
I don't agree 100%, Palo. In the beginning, I think Princess Diana really did love PC. And having an intact marriage was so important to her because she came from a broken home. It is not what she wanted for her kids. But she just could not compete with Parker-Bowles who was never out of the scene. Eventually, Diana did cave in and had her share of flirtations. But keep in mind, she was 20 years and 20 days old when she married a man 13 years here senior. Diana's blood was bluer than Charles truth be told and so she was from just the right bloodline for the propogation of the royal lines. She ended up nothing more than a brood mare for the Royal house of Windsor. But she is gone and there is no use rehashing what she did or did not do..good or bad.

Princess Margaret is being said that she was the Princess Diana of the 50s and 60s. I bet Diana did more good than Margaret. No one other than Diana had the personal touch with children, the old and the sick that none of the other members of that household had or ever will have.

191 posted on 02/09/2002 5:31:57 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: kellynla
It was a sad time, "47"! Didn't the famine occure in other Northern European countries? Did they starve to the same degree?
192 posted on 02/09/2002 5:37:02 PM PST by Blake#1
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
After air raids, the King and Queen – she dressed in the finest satin and furs – would visit the scene of devastation and offer consolation to those who had lost their homes. It was only after Buckingham Palace was bombed, however, that the Queen felt she could really relate to the people of London. “I’m glad we’ve been bombed. It makes me feel I can look the East End in the face,” she famously said."

Nice the old gal could enjoy those furs and satins paid for by the blood work of the commoners

I do hope you weren't trying to actually get some sympathy for these thieving old coots because you failed terribly.
193 posted on 02/09/2002 5:55:13 PM PST by Tofa Swiftgoat
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To: strela
"But I don't miss the soggy, limp bacon!"

"I was briefed about the bacon before I came over. Also the organ meats ;)"

haha I miss the cheese and onion pies that were sold near my house. yum Actually, I liked all the little pies, including the "organ meats". I do NOT miss the beef. I do NOT miss the wild tasting chicken. :( Oh, but our butcher had the most beautiful pork I've ever seen. And the cream that we could whip with a fork. I think my husband lived on pork, strawberries and cream while we were there. He REALLY hated the beef and chicken!

194 posted on 02/09/2002 6:07:58 PM PST by joathome
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To: Cacique
I only hope that Europeans will at some point see the light and move forward by ridding themselves of the anachronisms of their societies that no longer have relevance to a modern world.

There is a problem here, and you may see it. I dilate presently. (No, that does not mean I'm going into labor!)

Europe went from a nomadic, tribal social system through a feudal one to a monarchic one. It was of course, survival of the fittest and dominance of the strongest. I think that the climate and geography of Europe was an important factor in these developments, and set the stage for the age of enlightenment and the industrial revolution.

Late in the middle ages, the nobility started to impose limits on the actions of royalty. England apparently led the way. It was of course a rocky road with many detours, but after the tumultuous events of the 17th and 18th centuries in England, she managed democratic (N.B: small d) reforms resulting in a Parliamentary Monarchy.

This was one of the influences on the American Founding Fathers (the parliamentary part, of course) and also for many other European monarchies. Indeed, those which survive today all have Parliaments in the ascendancy and an essentially ceremonial Royalty.

Unfortunately, a virulent strain of the democratic impulse originated in the 19th century and slowly metastatized throughout the western world: Socialism, Marxism, and Communism. In the 20th century we have witnessed the course of these pathologies, but it is well to remember that they were (and to some extent still are) fueled by the engine of the force of the peoples' will, however grossly manipulated: democracy (medium sized d this time).

My point is this.

The vestiges of Royalty that exist today in Britain and elsewhere generally harken back to a time that saw Western Civilization at its peak--the establishment of more-or-less workable representative government. Of course, like every human institution, one must expect it to be riddled with waste, confusion, and abuse.

Now consider the other strain of political/social evolution that has been operative throughout the 20th century: Socialist collectivism. Communism in Russia, Fabian Socialism in Britain, and their kindred spirits in American media and academe. And consider the Continent, where the best of representative government has been tainted not only with the authoritarian impulses of their Royal past, but also the collectivist impulses of the supposedly democratic movements of the 20th century. It is telling that so many of the dominant parties in modern day Europe have the word "Social" or "Socialist" in their names.

If these are the choices for the West, who could blame someone for upholding the tradition of a Parliamentary Monarchy against the alternative: non-monarchical Parliamentary forms where Socialists and Communists play such a big role--even into the 21st centry.

195 posted on 02/09/2002 6:24:26 PM PST by Erasmus
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To: joathome
There was a butcher's shop right across the street from my flat on Finchley Rd. in Golder's Green. Fresh meat from that place, prepared on my own hibachi, was a rare treat on an E3's meager budget. That shop is probably part of the reason I'm prohibited from donating blood today, due to the mad cow disease scare.

I hopped on the tube once every couple of weeks and went to the commissary at West Ruislip for the majority of my grocery shopping (much cheaper than the local shops). Since I didn't have a car, I just filled my seabag with canned goods and groceries and lugged it home. Other than a squashed box of Lucky Charms from time to time, it worked just fine. Most of the locals shopped every day for groceries at the Sainsburys and the greengrocers down the road.

I pretty much lived on bangers and mash and egg and chips at a little cafe down the road from my flat (also where I discovered that brown sauce that I mentioned in a previous post). There was also a Chinese takeout place on Finchley Road that made the best (and only) Peking duck I have ever tasted - I ate enough duck to grow pinfeathers and now never want to see another duck.

I never could get into lamb (and there were several Greek places that did it with pita bread on Finchley Road) - it always tasted gamy to me.

196 posted on 02/09/2002 6:31:18 PM PST by strela
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To: Cacique
Your word parasite is most extreme-would you consider something more civil, more decent? Perhaps you might consider the feelings of the many British subjects who read this forum? I would certainly consider your feelings, in even the most trivial issues. While we consider our elected officials pretty much fair game, I think you sir, are most out of line, on this point.
197 posted on 02/09/2002 6:48:57 PM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: MadRobotArtist
watch the movie Metropolis by Fritz Lang Many thanks, I have not seen this one. From your post it looks that I would enjoy it. Thanks again.
198 posted on 02/09/2002 7:36:58 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
You can pick up the DVD for about 5 bucks at Best Buy. It's a bargain bin special, but it's a classic. It's an excellent film, if you like Noir Cinema. It's a silent movie, and it's pretty slow moving. The DVD has the original score, plus some alternative tracks. I think you'd enjoy it, if you like old silent movies.
199 posted on 02/09/2002 7:55:12 PM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: Cacique
What an interesting post. Are you a Marxist by any chance? The class warfare fairly drips from your comments, not to mention the implicit belief that property is theft.
"I find the whole concept of a parasitic class of people called the nobility to be an anachronism whose time passed a long time ago."
How are the nobility parasitic? They pay taxes. In fact, in Great Britain, their tax level is so extortionate that most of the great families have had to give up houses and property that had been theirs for centuries. If anything, I'd say that the English nobility have been victims of just the kind of class warfare that you espouse -- graduated confiscatory taxation.
That staunch republicans as many Americans should be, I find it incredible that there is any admiration for a parasitic family whose relationship to the populace is to sponge off the people.
H.M.'s revenues are largely from her land holdings, which were inherited. Are you saying that people should not have a right to benefit from inherited wealth? If that is your opinion, I must assume that you are either a registered Democrat or a Socialist.
They produce absolutely nothing nor contribute anything to civilization.
The history of European art and culture is the history of the European aristocracy. They, as a class, were the only ones with the wealth and cultivation to patronise art. Virtually everything of beauty that had been developed in Europe over the last thousand years we owe to the patronage of princes.
Further proof that Europeans still have a long way to go before they join the modern world.
Ah, the modern world! America in the twenty-first century as the pinnacle of all that is good and beautiful! Modern American culture is an example of what happens when art is subject to the law of supply and demand in an environment without aristocracy, where people with absolutely no aesthetic discernment have a disproportionate amount of disposable income. Aristocratic patronage gave us Bach, Handel, Michelangelo, Moliere. "The People" have given us rap music, $200 sneakers, Britney Spears, professional wrestling, monster truck rallies, Jerry Springer, and a President named Clinton.
200 posted on 02/09/2002 8:29:39 PM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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