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NEA OKs Resolution to Protect Gays
AP | 2/8/02 | AP

Posted on 02/08/2002 3:05:41 PM PST by anniegetyourgun

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To: anniegetyourgun
Gotta change my specs. Thought it said NRA!
61 posted on 02/08/2002 5:37:02 PM PST by leadhead
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To: M.T. Cicero
Some people have no use for a lot of people, that does not excuse abuse, or violence. ALL people have a right to protection.

I think that's half the point. Children should learn to treat ALL PEOPLE with respect. No group should be singled out as needing 'special' respect.

62 posted on 02/08/2002 5:51:55 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: M.T. Cicero
"advocates equal rights for homosexuals"

They have equal rights already under the constitution. They have the right not to be murdered. Not to be raped. Not to be robbed, etc. Anything else would be infringing on my rights of freedom of speech. I have a right to say what I want, believe what I want, and like or dislike whom I choose. I have a right to hire and fire people I like and don't like. Intolerance is constitutional. Sorry you don't like it, but it is.

BTW, I don't hate gay people. I don't see one single person on this thread advocating violence towards a homosexual. I see parents who don't think this is appropriate educational material at a school.

64 posted on 02/08/2002 6:15:11 PM PST by SpookBrat
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You are comparing apples to oranges. The fight over civil rights is not the same as fighting over the right to practice a specific form of sexual act/lifestyle publicly, and teaching its dubious merits to little children.
66 posted on 02/08/2002 6:24:41 PM PST by pray4liberty
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To: M.T. Cicero
Secondly, even if a person chooses to be open about who they are, does not justify ill treatment of that individual, people are people, they have a right to be safe

You are exactly right. It does not justify violence. However, where are you going to draw the line on what's 'ill' treatment? If I looked crossed eyed at a gay student, would I be allowed to graduate, without passing a tolerance test? Would I be expelled if I said, "I think homosexuality is wrong."? People DO have a right to be safe, and those rights & laws are already on the books. If I beat up someone because they are gay, I'm wrong. Actually if I beat up anyone, I'm wrong.

If you tell me I can't say "I don't like them" you are wrong. I have a constitutional right to say it. That's what you want done isn't it? You don't want children and their parents to be able to say something or believe something.

67 posted on 02/08/2002 6:25:49 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: anniegetyourgun
Support enforcement of Sodomy laws and put an end to this
70 posted on 02/08/2002 6:30:58 PM PST by Khepera
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To: M.T. Cicero
But opposing efforts to try and protect gay students is an endorsement of passive violence.

No, I don't think so. I can't speak for everyone on this thread, but I would certainly never encourage or teach my children to be unkind to anyone. Stand up for what you believe in, but don't be hateful about it. See.....this is my point.....where is the line on what's hateful? Because my children are taught homosexuality is wrong, some would consider this to be "hate" speech. It's not! That's what I saw on this thread. I see people say they don't like them, and that's protected speech. You may not like the things they have to say, but it is protected.

This is why this is so dangerous. You can't force someone to treat someone with respect, at least with their mouth. You can force them to obey laws of civilized behavior, being we don't hit people or kill them because we don't like them. But you can't force someone to "like" gay people or treat them with respect. That would be unconstitutional.

The term "thought police" comes to mind here.

71 posted on 02/08/2002 6:35:24 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: Khepera
If they enforce sodomy laws have of the heterosexuals in the country will be in jail. How about a law that just says, homosexuals will be executed. Then we won't have to put up with this BS.
73 posted on 02/08/2002 6:40:42 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem
have and half not
75 posted on 02/08/2002 6:41:35 PM PST by breakem
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To: M.T. Cicero
I stand in favor of any education which will enable people to be tolerant of others

Do you stand in favor of parents teaching this tolerance or do you want the government to do it? The government can not come into my home and tell me what to teach my children.

Actually, I don't like the word tolerance. I don't have to tolerate anything frankly. I teach this to my children. Be kind to people BECAUSE THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS!!!!! Not because they are gay, straight, black, white, brown whatever! But I also tell them "evil companions corrupt good morals". It all balances out.

76 posted on 02/08/2002 6:43:54 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: M.T. Cicero
It's about students needing to fear less violence and harassment because of their sexual orientation, or in the case of many people, their assumed sexual orientation.

Well, for the record, I'm Chinese. I was racially harassed at school, day in, day out, for years. I was called Jap, Chink, Flip, among other epithets. I was threatened with violence. Did the school help? No! Racism was and is illegal, but that didn't stop harassment from happening.

While this socialization experiment was not pleasant, indeed hostile, I survived the experience and managed to get a decent education. It made me a better person because I treat people the way I want to be treated. I would never treat anyone in such a shameful way.

The NEA was no help then, and I think these policies will only make matters worse. It is the unpleasant experiences that toughen us up to deal with life. Let's face it, life is not utopia for anybody. This is called living in the School of Hard Knocks.

Schools would be better off just teaching the Golden Rule and leaving it at that.

77 posted on 02/08/2002 6:45:46 PM PST by pray4liberty
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