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Child shot in head by off duty cop during school demo
Fox news

Posted on 02/06/2002 11:44:28 AM PST by inflorida

This just reported on Fox news. A 10 year old child in Pennsylvania was accidentally shot in the head during a school demonstration by an off-duty cop.
The child is expected to survive.


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To: TommyDale
It sounds like the policewoman was black. In fact, from its name, I suspect that the school -- Imani charter -- is a segregated, black nationalist school.
321 posted on 02/06/2002 4:29:28 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Chad Fairbanks
No kidding... a dangerous world... just the other day, I was walking down the sidewalk when, to my surprise, I saw a gun ambling down the street towards me. We exchanged greetings, and then he added, "Well, good day! I'm off to rob a convenience store!" and off he went...

You're on a roll, pal!

322 posted on 02/06/2002 4:34:53 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
When I posted that had not been stated yet, and I just don't like to assume female. Great way to start a flamewar with me as the target. NO THANKS!!!
323 posted on 02/06/2002 4:35:23 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: inflorida
No excuse for this... None.
324 posted on 02/06/2002 4:36:11 PM PST by MileHi
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To: mrustow
It sounds like the policewoman was black.
In fact, from its name, I suspect that the school -- Imani charter -- is a segregated, black nationalist school.
What, you have ESP?
From:
http://www.philsch.k12.pa.us/charter_schools/schoolinfo.html
IMANI EDUCATION CIRCLE CHARTER SCHOOL
Mission Statement: The Imani Education Circle Charter School (IEC) will provide students in grades K-8 an academically rigorous, mathematics, science and technology-intensive program in a safe and caring environment.  Imani will address the needs of students, their families and their communities by building on the strength of students’ cultural heritage and life experiences to enable them to become successful, lifelong learners, and valuable members of the global community.  Educational Vision: The Imani Education Circle Charter School (IEC) will be an African-centered elementary school (K-8) that will involve members of students’ families and communities as partners in the circle of education, both inside and outside the classrooms.  IEC will draw on the strengths of its surrounding community to assist the entire family in finding the services and supports they will need to become active contributory members of their community.

326 posted on 02/06/2002 4:42:14 PM PST by RonDog
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To: All
Did anyone see the video of a female Riverside Co. Sheriff's Deputy that nearly pasted the perp her partner was trying to handcuff? A couple of years ago I remember watching a news clip of the two officers. A Deputy that looked liked body builder Lee Haney had his knee on the back of a proned out man, attempting to secure him. Just as he put the cuffs on, his female partner skipped a round off the pavement right in front of the suspects face. The look on the perps face was absolute shock. Of course, her partner wasn't too happy either.
327 posted on 02/06/2002 4:42:38 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: mrustow
Hey, aren't schools "gun-free" zones mandated by federal law?

This woman needs to go to the bighouse, with the same extreme prejudice a white man civilian would suffer.
If she doesn't, then, there is no justice left in Amurika.

328 posted on 02/06/2002 4:47:42 PM PST by GhostofWCooper
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To: TC Rider
I don't think so -- what "clip"?
329 posted on 02/06/2002 4:52:08 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: inflorida
I bet she was NOT a blonde!
330 posted on 02/06/2002 4:58:04 PM PST by Liberty Ship
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To: RonDog
Here is the UPDATED story, now posted at:
http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2002/02/06/local_news/06GRAZE.htm
Child wounded by officer's gunshot in show-and-tell
By Barbara Boyer
and Thomas J. Gibbons Jr.

INQUIRER STAFF WRITERS

Shortly after a Philadelphia policewoman passed around a loaded handgun among students during a show-and-tell at a Germantown charter school, the weapon accidentally discharged this afternoon, grazing a 10-year-old boy in the face.

The student, fourth-grader James Reeves, received five stitches at Temple University Children's Hospital and returned home tonight in good condition, while police and school officials continued their investigation into the incident at Imani Education Circle Charter School in Germantown.

The officer, Vanessa Carter-Morange, 39, a five-year veteran assigned to the Ninth Police District in Center City, was removed from street duty and is now the subject of an internal affairs investigation, police said.

Philadelphia police Capt. Edward Chiodetti said that about 3 p.m., the officer went to the school to pick up her son and was interacting with the students in the boy's classroom. Chiodetti said the children first wanted to see her badge, which she displayed, and then asked to see her weapon, a 9 mm Glock semiautomatic.

Officials said the officer removed the clip from the weapon and then passed it among the children. Although a clip, which contains the bullets, is removed, a round can remain in the chamber unless it is removed separately.

A girl who was among the 23 children in the classroom at the time of the incident, 9-year-old Aatiqah Johnson, said: "Everybody was passing it around."

The weapon eventually was returned to the officer, but as she handled it, she dropped it. When the officer picked it up from the floor, it went off.

The girl said there was a bang, and then she saw blood.

"She accidentally pulled the trigger," said Aatiqah, as she was leaving school holding hands with her mother, Melita Johnson.

Other students said they were told to return to their rooms after the incident as police descended on the campus on the 5600 block of Greene Street.

Chiodetti said that when the officer attempted to put the clip back into the gun, it discharged.

The bullet ricocheted off the floor and grazed Reeves' right cheek.

"The gun should not have been pulled out," Chiodetti added.

Imani Principal Francine Fulton said that the school encouraged parents to participate in such activities and that the school was aware of the demonstration. Fulton declined to discuss details of the discharge.

Throughout the afternoon, concerned parents arrived at the school to pick up their children. Many of the parents had heard of the incident from news reports or from friends, and already knew that their own children were fine.

Tim Williams, whose son Armani is in kindergarten, said he wanted to know more about what happened.

"I was relieved to find out that it was an off-duty officer and not another student," Williams said. Still, he was concerned about a gun being brought into a classroom. The entire incident, he said, "was too close for comfort."

Another parent who rushed to the school, Rhoshanna Morgan, picked up her first-grader, Nadirah, 6.

Morgan said that she learned of the discharge from relatives who work at the school and that said she hoped future show-and-tell programs would be safer.

"I just hope all the children would be safe," Morgan said.

The incident came five days after an off-duty school district police officer who was working as a part-time school-bus driver came under investigation when students from Imani and another charter school told their parents he threatened them with a handgun.

Police said that officer, who at the time was driving a school bus, stopped on the route after school to calm unruly children. The officer, whose name was not released, hollered at the kids to sit down and be quiet and made reference to his gun. He was not charged, but the matter remained under investigation.


Barbara Boyer's e-mail address is
bboyer@phillynews.com.


Inquirer staff writer Robert Moran contributed to this report.

331 posted on 02/06/2002 5:04:29 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Palladin
This woman is a major moron, should be fired immediately, and should never be allowed to own a gun again!

If your suspicions are correct and she's black they can't fire her. But this all points to the fact that she shouldn't have had the job in the first place, but got it because 1) she was a she and 2) she was black. Qualification don't matter anymore, just minority status.

332 posted on 02/06/2002 5:21:01 PM PST by George from New England
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To: EricOKC
Oh wait, this WAS a cop that had the gun? Kid must have been doing something wrong......

Probably too many witnesses to plant a drop gun.

333 posted on 02/06/2002 5:23:47 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: All
Here is what I say about Glocks and Rottweilers -
they aren't intended to be owned by idiots!
334 posted on 02/06/2002 5:47:54 PM PST by gwynapnudd
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To: Bang_List

335 posted on 02/06/2002 5:48:31 PM PST by AStack75
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To: AStack75
"...Philadelphia police Capt. Edward Chiodetti said that about 3 p.m., the officer went to the school to pick up her son and was interacting with the students in the boy's classroom. Chiodetti said the children first wanted to see her badge, which she displayed, and then asked to see her weapon, a 9 mm Glock semiautomatic

Officials said the officer removed the clip from the weapon and then passed it among the children. Although a clip, which contains the bullets, is removed, a round can remain in the chamber unless it is removed separately..."

Please help a NON-Glock owner.
1 - Is this scenario realistic?
2 - Does it not imply that the weapon was LOADED as it was passed around a classroom of students?

336 posted on 02/06/2002 5:55:46 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
It is obvious that the gun was loaded as it was passed around, if they passed it around, because putting a clip in WILL NOT make it discharge unles she pulls the action to load a bullet into the chamber. This means, that the gun was loaded, and the Police officer was an IDIOT!!!
337 posted on 02/06/2002 6:02:47 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: RonDog
Does it not imply that the weapon was LOADED as it was passed around a classroom of students?

There may well have been one round in the chamber.

There are some autopistols with a 'magazine' safety, that won't fire a round in the chamber if the magazine has been removed. I think S&W makes them.

Did anyone else notice how many of these stories refer to 'clips' rather than magazines?

338 posted on 02/06/2002 6:06:26 PM PST by TC Rider
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To: Aric2000
Thank you for the confirmation.
(I thought as much, but was not certain.)
What a MAROON! This is Philadelphia's finest?
339 posted on 02/06/2002 6:06:44 PM PST by RonDog
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To: TC Rider
What was she thinking when she gave her weapon to children?

"I'm so glad I'm a cop 'cause if I were a mere peasant, this would be a multiple felony even if I didn't shoot anyone." [time elapses] "Oops! Dang trigger! Now I'm real glad I'm a cop and not a peasant."

340 posted on 02/06/2002 6:07:17 PM PST by coloradan
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