Posted on 02/06/2002 11:44:28 AM PST by inflorida
This just reported on Fox news. A 10 year old child in Pennsylvania was accidentally shot in the head during a school demonstration by an off-duty cop.
The child is expected to survive.
I'm absolutely dumbfounded. Chances are this dumbbell passed her weapon around with one in the chamber, she's lucky one of the kids didn't plug her.
I took a break from FR to drive home a bit ago. I kept thinking that I should have offered a wager that it was not a Glock. Of course that was based on the 'latest' news that it had discharged on dropping.
Hypothetically speaking, I wonder if she didn't grab for it on the way down and engage the trigger. If she picked it up by the trigger she should be fired.
What was she thinking when she gave her weapon to children?
Thank you for this insightful point. I know it should be instinctive, but oddly, no one ever mentioned the "don't try to catch it" rule in any of the classes I have taken. (The same rule applies with kitchen knives.) Your point is a good safety reminder. Even if it is a collectible and expensive model, one should just let it drop. (Although I might be tempted to use my foot to break the fall if it were a real nice one, since my shoe's toe won't fit in the trigger guard.)
http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2002/02/06/local_news/06GRAZE.htmChild wounded by officer's gunshot in show-and-tell
By Barbara Boyer
and Thomas J. Gibbons Jr.
INQUIRER STAFF WRITERSA 10-year-old boy was grazed in the head by a bullet during a show-and-tell presentation by an off-duty police officer at a Germantown charter school today.
The boy, identified as James Reeves, was in good condition this afternoon, after being rushed to Temple University Hospital from the Imani Education Circle School in the 5600 block of Greene Street in Germantown.
Authorities said he received a graze wound to his right cheek about 2:45 p.m.
Philadelphia Police Lt. Sue Slawson said the incident remained under investigation. The officer, Vanessa Carter-Morange, was off-duty and participating in a show-and-tell presentation at the school where her son is enrolled.
Police said the gun apparently discharged when the officer dropped it in the classroom.
Carter-Morange, 39, has been with the police department since 1996 and is currently assigned to the Ninth District. Slawson said the officer will be removed from the street while a routine internal affairs investigation is conducted.
I've played with my friends a few times at the range. It's really hard to believe the things are weapons. You're right about the trigger, but that's a negligible trade off for the concealment factor.
My friend's is a about a year old and seems to eat everything. Federal Hydroshocks, Remingtons FMJ, Fiochi JHP (which are the only HPs that will feed my Beretta), and even Blazers went through it fine. Have it checked out, it may need fix'n, at the least get them to polish up the guts.
Has anyone played with the new National .380? I'm in the market for a pocket gun and right now the KelTec has my interest.
Guess I went to a different school on gun safety - you never point a gun at anyone - PERIOD.
Unless you intend to do some damage.
LVM
That's a great owners site. My friend showed me the link to the MouseMag32 project there
http://www.kyw.com/now/story/0,1597,328490-406,00.shtmlBullet Grazes Student(AP) A 10-year-old boy was grazed in the right cheek by a bullet that apparently discharged when an off-duty police officer dropped her gun while showing it to students, officials said.
The child, who was not identified, was given five stitches then released from Temple University Children's Medical Center Wednesday evening.
The incident occurred at 2:46 p.m. at the Imani Education Circle Charter School located at 5612 Greene Street in the Germantown section of the city, said Sgt. Roland Lee, a Philadelphia police department spokesman.
The officer, whom Lee would not name, was a woman who joined the department in 1996, Lee said. Her child was among the 23 students in the class at the time, said Principal Francine Fulton.
According to Fulton, the uniformed officer had shown the magazine clip to the class and had just put it back in the gun when she dropped the weapon. Fulton did not know if the gun discharged when it hit the floor or when the officer retrieved it.
Police officials say the incident occurred while the officer was picking up her child from school - not as part of a planned demonstration. Nonetheless, they say, the officer should have never drawn her weapon.
Disciplinary action against the officer has not yet been determined.
The charter school, which is run by a community board of directors, was being cordoned off Wednesday afternoon and treated as a crime scene.
Children from the same school were involved in an incident Friday in which a substitute bus driver allegedly threatened unruly students, saying he had a weapon and ordering them to keep quiet. Police later stopped the bus and found the 58-year-old driver with a 9 mm semiautomatic.
The driver, who had a permit for the weapon and apparently did not brandish it, was questioned by police but not charged.
Watch Eyewitness News
BTW, could you give me any leads on finding the story you mentioned of traitorous Philly cops on 911?
Just curious, do you have the 'clip'?
ROTFLMAO
owning glocks and sigs (no "manual" safeties), that hint stuck in my mind from a class i've taken somewhere, and
i wish i knew who to attribute that excellent advice to... i'm just passing it on...
i misspoke about the idpa rules... from the idpa rules (SO is the safety officer)...
"In the event that a contestant does drop a loaded firearm during a stage or string of fire, the SO will immediately yell the command ‘STOP’. It will be the task of the SO to pick-up/recover the dropped loaded firearm, and render it safe and unloaded before returning it to the contestant. The competitor who has dropped the loaded firearm will be disqualified from the entire event."
when the fit hits the shan, training is all.
shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. glock rocks
I thought cops were trained in the proper handling of a firearm, if so, he ignored it.
I am trained in the proper use of a firearm, if I am, he sure as heck had better be. This shows me that A: the guy is a total incompetent, or B: has no respect for a firearm and what they are capable of.
She, Aric, she.
Yes that's what it sounds like .. One of the children in my daughters class .. her father is a police officer .. He came to school .. but he didn't shoot anyone ..
LOL... How boring!
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