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1 posted on 02/04/2002 9:52:14 PM PST by ouroboros
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2 posted on 02/04/2002 9:54:01 PM PST by ouroboros
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Buchanan is now reflexively hostile to any evidence that the United States retains any strong points at all. He deplores the fact that no top college has an American history requirement. But clearly universities are doing something right, for in what other country does the biography of a hitherto little-studied 18th-century politician spend months on the best-seller list, as David McCullough's ''John Adams'' has done?

How does one best-seller prove that "clearly universities are doing something right"? Does Caldwell know the ages of the people buying this book? Does he know whether they went to "top universities"? Does he know why they're buying the book? How does Caldwell extrapolate his conclusion?

You don't have to be a fan of Pat Buchanan to agree with him on the American history requirement, and also think Christopher Caldwell's argument here is incredibly weak.

3 posted on 02/04/2002 10:09:17 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: ouroboros
Christopher Caldwell is an ignoramus. An uneducated moron, in all liklihood, who, given the mass production of the New York Times, miscalculates, spews hatred, and lies in a way to brand Pat as a vile racist.

Hey, Caldwell, have you actually read Pat's book?

Where's your qualifications? You actually think that you're more intelligent than Pat Buchanan? Give it up you slimy, Left-Wing turd.

5 posted on 02/04/2002 10:17:36 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: ouroboros
Just shows you what passes for intelligence at the "Weekly Standard".
6 posted on 02/04/2002 10:32:54 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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All of you have been around long enough to have observed certain truisms from the left.  Some of them are quite absurd.  But none the less, they are the left's truisms.  One of the most absurd is that the world is warming at an alarming rate, this has been caused by man and it will bring calamity to the human race.  The absurdity of this notion is revealed in that the decline of the ice age predated the populating of the planet by humans.  Yes, the world has been warming for eons.  No man did not cause it.  And no, man has not become extinct because of it.

A less absurd notion of the left's is that certain animals should not be allowed to become extinct.  In fact, I don't think it at all absurd to object to anything becoming extinct, providing we don't have to go to absurd lengths to avoid it.  If the civil rights of humans have to be invalidated to save an animal, I say let the animals go extinct.  I may not like it, but man comes first.  Some of you will disagree with me here.  I'd be disappointed if you didn't.

This truism then is the one that I will reference to ask a question.  If it is a terribly tragic thing for timber wolves, snail darters and bald eagles to become extinct, shouldn't it be a little cause for concern if a certain variety of humans is headed in that same direction?  Hey New York times, how about a "save the Race" run or a telethon or a concert to save the endangered Caucasian?  What?  No concern over this topic?  Garsh, what a surprise.

The fact that the Caucasian race has slipped from 1/3rd to 1/6th of humanity since 1950, is of no concern for the same outlets that endlessly obsess on lesser life forms.  Superiority in relationship to other races isn't the issue.  If this trend continues the Caucasian race will become 1/12th of humanity by 2035, 1/24of humanity by 2060 and 1/50th of humanity by 2080.  Is this, or is it not a reasonable topic to discuss?  Evidently the Times feels that it isn't.  And therefore I submit that a major truism of the left is breached by the Times'.  Extinction is okay if it's the proper entity that is headed in that direction.  And for all the carping about Pat Buchanan's opinions and not so overt racism, I've never heard him expound on the merits of any race becoming extinct.

A litany of demons is raised in this article.  Stalin, McCarthy, Klansmen, Pinochet, Castro and inferences to Hitler (but no outright mention to tarnish the intellectualism of this sterling zinger) are lofted in this article.  Evidently the more names such as these you can place in an article about Buchanan, the better.  But who do they have more in common with?  Does Buchanan advocate the demise of any group?  Well, no.  It is only the Times that seems to be "just fine" with the prospects of a race in decline.  Now, is that more Buchanan like, or is it closer to the list of people provided by this writer?

Buchanan is belittled because he laments the decline of western values.  And the Times dismisses this as if it were merely a demon's ploy.  But wait just a minute.  We have schools, businesses, media outlets and other refusing to fly the flag of the United States.  Why?  Well because it might be insensitive.  It might offend someone.  If that isn't at least a hint of what's to come, I don't know what you could call it.  We have states approving text books that do not mention our nation's founding fathers.  But no, the Times thinks this isn't an example of our culture being stripped away.

Well I think they are wrong.  I think our culture is being stripped away in a blatant manner.  And I don't think it's possible for anyone to claim otherwise.  Our heritage in this nation was to be able to own a weapon to protect ourselves, from criminals and our own government.  That's what those dead white guys who founded our nation said.  Who thinks their words are revered these days.  Raise your hand if you're an idiot.

Okay, let's review class.  The populace of Caucasians on the planet is constant while the populace of third world nations is exploding.  Why is that?  Well, the truth is, that although the living standards are very low, most of the poor people on the planet are able to subsist.  They proliferate in alarming numbers.  They are able to grow enough food, or obtain enough food that they drive up population numbers.  Even the unfortunate ones that die, do not stop the rising tide of third world inhabitants.

In the United States however, our society has undergone a devastation transition since WWII.  For all the talk about living standards, people in the United States must now work longer hours to provide homes for their families.  Where one wage earner could earn enough to provide for his family, we now see two wage earners having to work full time, and losing ground all the while.  The major factors that impact this situation are globalism and the massive influx of cheap labor into our nation.  These two factors have placed downward pressure on incomes.

Now, what happens when both adults in a household work?  Well guess what, they don't have the money or the time to care for more children.  And thus the population rate in white moderately successful nations around the world has declined.

A careful study of the policies of the United Nations in conjunction with leading western powers would likely show the reason why the white populace is in rapid decline.  But that study might open a few eyes.  Evidently the New York Times agrees.  For if eyes were opened, it would become appearent that the policies we have adopted are having a devistating effect on our very existance as a race.

If anyone would like to dump on me for thinking that Buchanan is right to address this issue, be my guest.  Just don't ask me to be concerned the next time the bald eagle or lassie is put on the endangered species list.  You may think I'm warped and this opinion is absurd, but I think my race has as much right to exist as they do.

Stick in your ear New York Times!

9 posted on 02/04/2002 10:58:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: ouroboros
It baffles me as to why any fan of Pat needs to shell out one red penny to read what Pat has to say in his latest book. Just pay a free visit to the websites of such well-respected think-tanks as National Alliance and Ku Klux Klan, who for years have been sounding the alarm against “non-white” invasion and impending demise of “white” race, the very same theme that got Pat's juices flowing.

Anyone who supports Buchanan’s position on race and immigration must have the intellectual fortitude to declare that National Alliance and Skinheads are visionaries who have been viciously maligned by the liberal press.

10 posted on 02/04/2002 10:59:33 PM PST by Aquatic
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You just can NOT go arond calling everyone, who disagree with Pat, a " neo-con " ! You use it as Jesse & Al use " racist ".

Do you even know the meaning of the word ? Do YOU even have the faintest idea, who this author is , and his background ?

21 posted on 02/05/2002 12:36:17 AM PST by nopardons
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In 1992, Buchanan electrified the Republican National Convention with a declaration that Americans were locked in a ''religious war'' and a ''cultural war'' for the nation's soul.

The speech that Republicans are just NOW recovering from. But hey...Thanks for ridding us of those 3500 Palm Beach Gore votes and effectively destroying The Reform Party, Paddy! Now, get lost.

27 posted on 02/05/2002 1:48:53 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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time to break out a copy of St. Augustine's "Confessons." St. Augustine was a "Romanized" citizen of Carthage just before the fall of the empire... stagnant, morally bankrupt, corrupt, full of every vice. A sickness that began from within. Sound familiar? See what a true thinker has to say about such a situation. And by the way, while on his deathbed he could hear the "savage" musloms clamoring outside the soon to fall city walls.
33 posted on 02/05/2002 4:55:46 AM PST by chickcoopcolonel
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He has decided he prefers the fight to the country.

Caldwell just now noticed that?

35 posted on 02/05/2002 5:06:12 AM PST by steve-b
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Odd that Caldwell really doesn't challenge any of Buchanan's rather self-evident assertions. It's as though he (Caldwell) thinks that ...Abortion, pornography, euthanasia, gun control and political correctness are the crimes; feminists, liberal judges and Marxisant scholars... are OK. Imagine.
40 posted on 02/05/2002 5:23:16 AM PST by Old Fud
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Buchanan's demographic alarum marks the re-emergence of a genre of racial-doom books not seen (for reasons that are obvious enough) since before World War II.

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Sorry, I'm not in to specious, incomplete, and smearing parallelisms. I'm concerned with reality of the present condition.

42 posted on 02/05/2002 5:34:29 AM PST by RLK
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Stopped reading after the first sentence when I saw that the nimrod couldn't distinguish between being against "illegal immigration" and being against "immigration."

Wake me when it's over.

80 posted on 02/05/2002 7:14:10 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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Just bought my book and got it signed from Pat three days ago. I read it cover to cover today. It's one of the most insightful books I've read on the problems facing America today. I had thought that Buchanan was quite out of his mind concerning imigration during the last campaign, but he makes an excellent argument for curbing immigration and deporting illegal aliens.

But his criticism of current immigration policy and handling illegal immigration is only a small part of the problem. His argument is that the West is on its death march or rather death bed and I think articulates the reasons why we are at a crisis and many of the causes of that crisis.

It is the best book I've read on politics since I read "The Character of Nations." Buchanan truly is a rare breed, clearly of man both of letters and understanding who understands our heritage, political, intellectual and spiritual.
82 posted on 03/02/2002 5:55:55 PM PST by Cincincinati Spiritus
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