Posted on 02/02/2002 6:32:51 AM PST by Khepera
Christianity and Homosexuality
The homosexuals and lesbians have gained considerable political and social momentum in America. They have "come out" as the term goes, left their closets, and are knocking on the doors of your homes. Through the TV, Radio, Newspapers, and Magazines, they are preaching their doctrine of tolerance, equality, justice, and love. They do not want to be perceived as abnormal or dangerous. They want acceptance and they want you to welcome them with open, loving arms, approving of what they do.
In the California State senate, several bills have been recently introduced by the pro homosexual politicians to ensure that the practice of homosexuality is a right protected by California law. Included in these bills are statements affecting employers, renters, and schools. Even churches would be required to hire a quota of homosexuals with "sensitivity" training courses to be "strongly urged" in various work places. There is even legislation that would make the state pick up the tab for the defense of homosexuality in lawsuits, while requiring the non homosexual side to pay out of his/her pocket.
The Christian church has not stood idle. When it has spoken out against this political immorality, the cry of "separation of church and state" is shouted at the "religious bigots." But when the homosexual community uses political power to control the church, no such cry of bigotry is heard. After all, it isn't politically correct to side with Christians.
What does the Bible say?
The Bible, as God's word, reveals God's moral character and it shapes the moral character of the Christian. There have been those who have used the Bible to support homosexuality, taken verses out of context and reading into them scenarios that are not there. Quite simply, the Bible condemns homosexuality as a sin. Let's look at what it says.
Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination"
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
With such clear statements against homosexuality, it is difficult to see how different groups can say the Bible supports homosexuality. It doesn't. But when a group wants acceptance and the Bible is the Christians' handbook on morality, the homosexual agenda must try to make the Bible agree with its agenda. But it doesn't work.
Unlike other sins, this sexual sin has a severe judgment administered by God Himself. This judgment is simple: They are given over to their passions. That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins. As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing. Without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance. Without repentance, there will be no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there is no salvation.
Should homosexuals be allowed to marry one another?
In this politically correct climate that relinquishes morality to the relativistic whims of society, stating that homosexuals should not marry is becoming unpopular. Should a woman be allowed to marry another woman? Should a man be allowed to marry another man? Should they be given legal protection and special rights to practice their homosexuality? No. No. No.
The Bible, of course, condemns homosexuality. It takes no leap of logic to discern that homosexual marriage is also condemned. But our society does not rely on the Bible for its moral truth. Instead, it relies more on a humanistic and relativistic moral base upon which it builds its ethics.
Homosexuality is not natural. The male and female bodies are obviously designed to couple. The natural design is apparent. It is not natural to couple male with male and female with female. In fact, if such couplings occurred in the animal world as a predominant practice, species would quickly become extinct. Nevertheless, some argue that homosexuality is natural since it occurs in the animal world. But this is problematic. In nature we see animals eating their prey alive. We see savagery, cruelty, and extreme brutality. Yet, we do not condone such behavior in our own society. Proponents of the natural order as a basis for homosexuality should not pick-and-choose the situations that best fit their agendas. They should be consistent and not compare us to animals. We are not animals. We are made in God's image.
Political protection of a sexual practice is ludicrous. I do not believe it is proper to pass laws stating that homosexuals have 'rights.' What about pedophilia or bestiality? These are sexual practices. Should they also be protected by law? If homosexuality is protected by law, why not those as well?
Of course, these brief paragraphs can in no way exhaust the issue of homosexuality's moral equity. But, the family is the basis of our culture. It is the most basic unit. Destroy it and you destroy society.
What should be the Christian's Response to the Homosexual?
Just because someone is a homosexual does not mean that we cannot love him (or her) or pray for him (her). Homosexuality is a sin and like any other sin, it needs to be dealt with in the only way possible. It needs to be laid at the cross, repented of, and never done again.
As a Christian, you should pray for the salvation of the homosexual the same you would any other person in sin. You should treat them with the same dignity as a person made in the image of God, that you would any other person. However, this does not mean that you are to approve of their sin. Don't compromise your witness for a politically correct opinion that is shaped by guilt and fear.
You bet your rear end that I'm going to be rude when I see people trying to legalize behavior that will result in more innocent people killed and more people's lives destroyed by drugs.
Homosexuals are killing themselves, spreading disease and disportionately molesting kids.
Only a fool wouldn't care about behavior that is destroying the participants and having a tremendously negative impact on our nation. Those that don't are LIBERALS and moral relativists and belong with Hillary, Barney Frank and Joycelyn Elders.
You just negated the purpose of Christs death........Grace. Are your sins any whiter than someone elses? Mine aren't. Christs love turns people away from sin, not human condemnation. God cries for His children that sin, the same as a human parent. He punishes His children the same as a human parent. He hates sin/bad behaviour the same as a human parent. He doesn't hate his children. Christians are to hate the sin, not the sinner. You can loathe someones behaviour and still love them as God does. That means you pray for them.
I equated your wanting to use stolen tax money to control the consensual behavior of others, not "legalization of drugs", to totalitarianism. Are you really so afraid, of people who use non-government-approved medications and guys who like Judy Garland, that you think we should all be slave labor for the government, in order to pay for stopping them from having what they consider a good time? The government and its confiscatory agencies can harm a family far more easily and permanently than the most obnoxious queer or druggie can.
It is a cancer that is destroying conservativism and our nation.
It? Are your conservative friends becoming gay or running off and becoming addicted to drugs? Are you afraid that you will too if there isn't a law to force you not to?
I thought conservatives were supposed to be all for smaller, less intrusive government, not crushing everybody under an oppressive tax burden in an attempt to enforce their personal behavioral preferences on those who don't share them.
You bet your rear end that I'm going to be rude when I see people trying to legalize behavior that will result in more innocent people killed and more people's lives destroyed by drugs.
Look around you. After thirty years of Nixon's War, the "drug problem" is as bad as ever. Worse, even. How can that be? We have all these laws?
Maybe it's time to try something different.
But, alcohol isn't illegal. How can you include that in your "drugs are mmm, bad" statistics?
And, you haven't seen FR libertarians calling for an end to laws against murder nor drunk driving laws either. Although I'd prefer that people who were found driving irregularly be stopped irregardless of whether their erratic driving is caused by alcohol, barbituates, antihistamines or just plain tiredness. Why do we care why they're a hazard? If they can't drive safely for whatever reason, they should be stopped, period.
Maybe if the cops weren't so busy breaking into people's houses to inventory their inanimate objects, and hassling them, filling out paperwork and sitting court to prosecute them for possessing small amounts of same, they'd have more time for doing important things like stopping murderers and dangerous drivers.
In fact, I'm sure the next agenda on the liberaltarian list will be to attempt to 1) legalize prostitution nationwide and 2) lower the age of consent laws. That's coming if liberaltarianism and liberalism are defeated.
The law deters crime. The stronger the law, the more the deterrent. That's why drug use has dropped from 26 millon to 14 million in the past 20 years. Tougher drug laws is one of the reasons for the drug in the crime rate (since 70% of all criminals in prison were high on drugs when they committed their crimes).
Legalizing marijuana and relaxing the drug laws in the 1960s and 1970s resulted in more users, more innocent people being harmed and more crime. The excesses of the WOD were a result of the out-of-control drug use and weak laws given to us by the free-love, free-drug hippie generation.
Ok. So, how long do you give them to repent? Your post sounds like you have a time table. And I don't remember anywhere in the Bible, a story where Christ advocates stoning a sinner for their sins, do you? As I said, condemnation & hate of the sinner has NEVER won anyone to Christ. There's a big difference between hating sin and hating the sinner. God hates sin, not us.
Please provide a source for your statistics.
This country miserably fails to punish public intoxication and fails to properly punish drunk drivers that kill others. If one repeatedly drinks and drives or kills another motorists, he or she should be charged with murder.
I don't disagree. We've had some horrid incidents here where people who were let off easily for a crime involving drunk driving later killed someone doing the same thing.
But stopping dangerous people who go about intoxicated in public is a far cry from going around criminalizing every substance a person might use to intoxicate himself, or, as now, even things that are similar.
Can you explain why it's a good idea for the dea to make soap and shampoo illegal? That's what announced they're considering, for products that contain hemp. They've already criminalized hemp-containing snack foods, even though a person could eat a truckload of them and not get "high".
Maybe if the jails weren't full of the likes of marijuana "criminals" there'd be more room there for others such as you describe above.
As for the unhealthy sexual behaviors of others, why should we pay to prosecute them for it, if they're not doing whatever it is in public (and assuming that they're not assaulting someone or making time with a minor)? Let their insurance companies charge them higher rates.
But, acts like committing adultery are crimes. Adultery is a crime against one's spouse.
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