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Another New Poll Shows Conservative Bill Simon's Support Exploding in California
Bill Simon for Governor ^ | 01/27/02 | Simon for Governor Campaign

Posted on 01/27/2002 8:25:56 PM PST by Impeach98

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To: Califreeper
By the way, your contempt for the Central Valley of this state is quite offensive. We are an economic powerhouse of this state and the bread basket of this nation. If you like to eat, you need to be a little more respectful.
101 posted on 01/27/2002 11:29:52 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: L.N. Smithee
Sorry. I forgot the [/sarcasm].
On the other hand, did I really need it?
102 posted on 01/27/2002 11:34:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Impeach98
Apparently, not all the virulently pro-abortion women have left the party.
103 posted on 01/27/2002 11:38:12 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Lancey Howard
Sorry. I forgot the [/sarcasm]. On the other hand, did I really need it?

For people like Tabitha Soren, whose heart is in the right place but are politically unrealistic? Yes, you do.

104 posted on 01/27/2002 11:48:05 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: L.N. Smithee
yep you are right...abortions will always be legal in the US........WAKE UP FOLKS....

What ever happened to partial birth ban?... I thought W was pro-life? How come the GOP House hasn't brought it up...nor W has send it to the congress as a bill???????

105 posted on 01/28/2002 12:27:19 AM PST by KQQL
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To: KQQL
Yeah... and are liberals so stupid as to go for a RINO??? Naaah unless their own candidate was so hopeless and they really couldn't stand him. Gray Davis has his base and he's throwing red meat to them right now to keep them happy. What's Dickie Pooh's been doing to keep the GOP base happy? We haven't seen any red meat. He's made it loud and clear he doesn't want or need us. I've nothing to get me motivated to vote for him in the primary and should he win, I'm going to stay home in November. That sums up up how I feel about the Hopeless Candidate pushed by the Stupid Old Party as the solution to its being in the doldrums in California.
106 posted on 01/28/2002 12:37:29 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
that's why they all should be kalifornia gop ...lol
107 posted on 01/28/2002 12:39:18 AM PST by KQQL
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To: KQQL
If no one gets more than 50% is there a runoff?
108 posted on 01/28/2002 4:59:01 AM PST by CPT Clay
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To: goldenstateghettostate
Apparently, not all the virulently pro-abortion women have left the party.

Not on a long shot. Besides, what the press won't tell you is that MOST people who are pro-abortion are MEN ... But that doesn't hold with the media view of things, so they rarely show female pro-lifers and only show white males who sound like neandtrathals.

I am a woman in my 30s, I am pro-life, and I would never vote for any candidate who wasn't.

I'm voting for Bill Simon, the only realy pro-life candidate in the race.

109 posted on 01/28/2002 5:44:47 AM PST by Gophack
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Pete Wilson destroyed the GOP, and you can take that to the bank

Pete Wilson is an example of why Republicans should be carefull with taking an offensive stance on immigration. Borders need to be protected, but a heavy handed approach will do more harm than good in the long run.

110 posted on 01/28/2002 6:02:49 AM PST by mgist
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To: TaxPayer2000
He is against it. The federal govt. has the say in it though and with "legalize them" George in charge things are going to get much worse. For all practical purposes in ten or fifteen years Calif. will be no longer a political part of the US. They will not secede simply because of the goodies they would lose. But otherwise the state will have become Baja California del Norte.
111 posted on 01/28/2002 6:14:15 AM PST by willyone
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To: Dan from Michigan
Agreed. On many issues Davis shows some common sense. The memorial speech he gave at Santana High was amazing in how reasonable and conservative it sounded. But with a Dem. stranglehold on the state it may not matter who wins. A true conservative Dem. would be best in dealing with his own party. Even better though would be Simon winning and the GOP picking up some seats. More than likely though the Rep National Headquarters will stab Simon in the back. The priority now is Latino voters. They no longer give a crap about the rest of us since they think we will vote for them no matter what.
112 posted on 01/28/2002 6:26:15 AM PST by willyone
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To: Califreeper
Anyone who objects to what has been done to clean the air must live in Montana or some other rural state or they are real stupid. There is no constitutional right to turn the country into a sewer. Even in 75 the air was so bad in LA and even in El Cajon that it had lumps. Now bad days are almost non existant. Keep it clean but get rid of MTBE which is far worse than air pollution which disappears in a few hours. MTBE lasts for decades in the water supply. Another Federal Govt. hose job.
113 posted on 01/28/2002 6:37:47 AM PST by willyone
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To: Impeach98
Replies to some points made on this thread:

1) The number of pro-life Republican women in California is statistically insignificant, consisting almost entirely of religious conservatives.

2) If Simon becomes the nominee (he has my vote) Davis will tear him to shreds on the abortion issue. California voters respond in Pavlovian ways when the Democrats haul out the "right to choose" catch phrases.

3) Riordan neutralizes Davis's advantage on the abortion issue. Unfortunately, he is a much older man who doesn't have Presidential hair. Politically illiterate Californians (and Americans in general) tend to vote for the more telegenic candidate.

4) Whoever described Bill Jones as the "Republican Al Gore" got it just right. He will be no factor.

5) California voters have already forgotten the power crisis, and if big bills come due in the future, they will blame Enron and PG&E, not Gray Davis.

6) Davis has a $30 million war chest.

Translation: Riordan wins the primary, holding off a surprisingly strong challenge from Simon. In the general election, he loses 55-45 to Davis. Californians just aren't angry enough at Davis to turn him out of office, and they almost always give governors two terms.

114 posted on 01/28/2002 6:40:04 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Jim Thornley
Following is a statement by Nick Jesson who is looking for the Republican nomination for job as Governor of California. As you may not know, the best known candidates, Simon and Riordan are both advocates of open borders.

Nick Jesson is a good man, and his position on the issues is a lot closer to mine than the others (including Bill Simon). And I thought long and hard before deciding to give Simon my support in terms of phone banking, walking, and ultimately, my vote. However, the quote above misrepresents what the Simon campaign has told me is his position on this issue. I'll have a chance to ask him myself tomorow, and will do so, however, the "party line" is that he is in favor, in the abstract, of legal immigration (without commenting on levels, or the notion of a moratorium for a few years), but strongly opposed to illegal immigration. No doubt you, as well as I, regard this as, at least, a day late and a dollar short. However, I have to look at this race in toto, and when you do that, the balance tips from Jesson to Simon. Not on the issues, but on the practical fact that Simon can win the primary due to the paid media blitz and all of the other essentials (to winning), that come with a well-financed campaign. This is exacerbated by Riordan's deep-pockets and the fawning media.

I'm sorry to say, it's not a race between Simon and Jesson. I wish it were. It's a race (with all due respect to Bill Jones), between Simon and Riordan. Further, Simon appears to be a good mainstream "conservative" candidate, so I really am not in a position of having to "hold my nose" to vote (and work) for the guy.

115 posted on 01/28/2002 6:50:22 AM PST by absalom01
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
I think it's great...but I don't want to jump up and celebrate Simon's victory in the primary if he wins and then see him lose against Davis. I rather see a Riordan victory and take a grain of salt then see Simon win the primary and lose the race for Governor.

Why would you want a governor more liberal than Gray Davis? Are you a liberal?

If you think that Riordan will benave like a Republican because of the R next to his name you are wrong.

When he became mayor of LA he let go of all his Republican campaign staff and hired Dems to the highest positions in City Hall. As Mayor he used the title to endorse Democrats in the most important races in California. He endorsed Diane Feinstein twice gainst very moderate Republican challengers.

I think the mistake you are making is thinking that Riordan is a moderate Republican like Christie Todd Whittman, or Arlen Specter. He's not even that. We need a new name for people like Riordan. He is a proud and proven liberal Dmeocrat who -- for whatever reason -- chose to check the R on his voter registration card.

Pick an issue and Riordan is there with the liberal Democrats.

116 posted on 01/28/2002 6:57:16 AM PST by Gophack
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To: Lancey Howard
No, they won't do a Schundler. From what I have heard, Simon clearly represents the values of the party.
117 posted on 01/28/2002 7:03:55 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: Califreeper
I'd rather have Dick Riordan than another four years of Gray Davis

Well with Riordan you will get another four years MORE LIBERAL than Davis. Pick an issues and Riordan is on Davis' side or to the left of him.

Is that what you want? Are you a liberal?

118 posted on 01/28/2002 7:11:43 AM PST by Gophack
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