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Day in Court for American Taliban (w/photo)
Yahoo News ^ | Thursday January 24 | LARRY MARGASAK

Posted on 01/24/2002 5:04:23 AM PST by tdadams

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) - His long hair and beard shorn, Taliban soldier John Walker Lindh faced charges in federal court Thursday that he conspired to kill his fellow Americans in the war on terrorism.

U.S. Magistrate Judge W. Curtis Sewell was to read Lindh the charges in a criminal complaint and ensure that he has legal representation. Heavy security surrounded Lindh's arrival at the federal courthouse here, just a few miles from the Pentagon (news - web sites), which was extensively damaged in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Lindh's parents, Marilyn Walker and Frank Lindh, who are from the San Francisco area, went to the Alexandria jail Wednesday night with lawyers in hopes of meeting with their son. But they emerged after about a half-hour saying they had been unable to see him.

``We're a little disappointed, but the guard was able to tell us that he is in good condition,'' Lindh said of his son. One of the lawyers, James Brosnahan, said jail authorities felt the meeting should be put off until Thursday.

Brosnahan said the 20-year-old Lindh approved him as a defense lawyer in a letter written while he was a prisoner on a U.S. Navy (news - web sites) ship.

Lindh was captured in November in Afghanistan (news - web sites) after an uprising by Taliban and al-Qaida prisoners. Two years after leaving his country for Yemen to study Arabic and Islam, he was brought under tight secrecy and security to the same jail in Northern Virginia where the only man charged so far in the Sept. 11 attacks, Zacarias Moussaoui, awaits trial on conspiracy charges.

``Mr. Lindh will be well cared for while he's with us,'' Alexandria Sheriff James H. Dunning told CBS's ``The Early Show.''

Lindh will spend 23 hours per day in an 80-square-foot jail cell with ``very limited activities'' and little contact with other inmates, Dunning said. He said the U.S. attorney's office would decide when Lindh could see his parents.

While it has yet to go to a grand jury, the government's case against Lindh so far is built around a criminal complaint based mainly on his interviews with the FBI (news - web sites) on Dec. 9 and 10 and statements he made in a television interview.

Lindh signed a form waiving his right to legal counsel, although defense lawyers already have said they would challenge the statement's admissibility because an attorney wasn't present. Lindh was recovering from a battle wound at the time.

An FBI affidavit said that while Lindh was at an al-Qaida training camp in June, he ``learned from one of his instructors that Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) had sent people to the United States to carry out several suicide operations.''

When he learned of the Sept. 11 attacks by radio, Lindh told the FBI, it was his understanding ``that bin Laden had ordered the attacks and that additional attacks would follow.''

Lindh, a Californian who converted to Islam at age 16, said he trained for seven weeks in an al-Qaida camp where bin Laden visited three to five times, giving lectures ``on the local situation, political issues, old Afghan/Soviet battles, etc.''

``On at least one of those occasions, Walker and four other trainees met with bin Laden for approximately five minutes, during which bin Laden thanked them for taking part in jihad (Holy War),'' the affidavit continued.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer (news - web sites) said Wednesday that President Bush (news - web sites) believes Lindh ``will now get the justice he deserves.'' Fleischer called the criminal charges against Lindh ``extraordinarily serious.''

``He will now have his day in court and he will be judged impartially and fairly,'' Fleischer said.

In an interview aired Wednesday on NBC-TV, Bush said he decided ``for a variety of reasons'' against trying Lindh for treason, adding, ``I also am pleased that he's going to be afforded a chance to make his case in a court of law.''

First lady Laura Bush expressed sympathy for Lindh's parents. ``I'm sure his parents are unbelievably crushed and, you know, worried and sick, everything that every parent feels when their children have a problem like he has,'' she said.

The interview, conducted as part of an NBC special on the Bush White House, was taped prior to Lindh's return from Afghanistan.


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To: LibWhacker
I hope they do!
61 posted on 01/24/2002 7:49:41 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: NYC GOP Chick
It's only a little smaller than mine. :D
62 posted on 01/24/2002 7:50:37 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: tdadams
BURN BABY BURN
63 posted on 01/24/2002 7:50:50 AM PST by daniel boob
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To: tdadams

Handsome devil, ain't he? ;-D Instead of being a romantic figure (to soft-headed and desperate liberal bimbos), it turns out that he's a blank-eyed, slack-jawed and sullen pud.

64 posted on 01/24/2002 7:51:31 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: hellinahandcart
I know the feeling. :-D You're downtown, right?
65 posted on 01/24/2002 7:54:07 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I say let's drive him over to the Pentagon and leave him there for a little while. We just drove by there this past Tuesday and the hole is still there, his friends made when they flew the plane into it.
66 posted on 01/24/2002 7:55:00 AM PST by Teacup
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To: Ratatoskr
80 sq ft is 8'x10', not 20'x40'....
67 posted on 01/24/2002 7:57:52 AM PST by cactmh
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Watch this; the NYPost will be accused of subliminally suggesting Johnie is a DemocRAT
68 posted on 01/24/2002 7:58:23 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Handsome devil, ain't he?

Look how fat he's gotten on good ole American Military food. Jerk! @ss! Puke! Butt Munch! We are spending far too much of our money on this tratior.

69 posted on 01/24/2002 7:58:39 AM PST by Teacup
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To: NYC GOP Chick
No, Upper East Side.
70 posted on 01/24/2002 7:59:45 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
His lawyer just said, "John Loves the USA." Oh pleeeze! The radio news also said the jerk told the Judge he understood the charges brought against him. Good! Now get a rope, LOL.
71 posted on 01/24/2002 8:03:17 AM PST by Teacup
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To: thirst4truth
Congrats *s*. My husband is a STS3(SS) (submarine sonar tech, third class, qualified) aboard a fast attack sub based out of Norfolk, VA. He's currently on 6 month deployment.
72 posted on 01/24/2002 8:03:23 AM PST by Severa
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To: tdadams
I propose a Freeper Boycott on all posts, newsmedia reports, on Ratboy, his parents and his dirtbag Attorney.

These dirtbags are getting more press on the national media than our TROOPS,WHO ARE THE REAL HEROES .

73 posted on 01/24/2002 8:04:58 AM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: tdadams
Well, is Daddy's homersexual, uhm, partner, there in Virginee with him to add moral support? And, by the way, who's paying for the four, count them, shysters? 'Coz I bet these boys had volunteered salivating at the oppotunity to get their faces on telebision and have an early jump at those White House jobs in 2005 (they pray,) or 2009 (worst case scenario,) working for El Presidente Evita!
74 posted on 01/24/2002 8:10:26 AM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: Teacup
Hmm...I wonder if his lawyer loves the USA as much as John does. Get a BIG rope.

Thank God for GW Bush. He knows and will enforce the word "Justice". Words of integrity and honor were vacant in the Clinton Administration.

75 posted on 01/24/2002 8:22:49 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: piasa
He did not renounce his citizenship

Simply taking up arms against the U.S. is a renunciation of U.S. citizenship. He did not need to execute a formal renunciation.

76 posted on 01/24/2002 8:39:38 AM PST by geaux
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To: Eastbound
Re: Passport (30 years ago):

"LOSS OF NATIONALITY: You may lose your United States nationality by being naturalized in, or by taking an oath or by making a declaration of allegiance to, a foreign state; or by serving in the armed forces or by accepting employment under the government of a foreign state. For detailed information, consult the nearest American consular office." The next paragraph, while probably not pertinent in this case, looks like it would allow for combat duty in another nation's military if the person claims dual nationality. Another bag of worms. "WARNING TO DUAL NATIONALS: A person is considered a dual national when he owes allegiance to more than one country at the same time. A claim to allegiance may be based on facts of birth, marriage, parentage, or naturalization. A dual national may, while in the jurisdiction of the other country which considers him its national, be subject to all of its laws, including military service. If difficulties occur, consult the nearest American consular office."

Passport issued in Feb 1999

LOSS OF CITIZENSHIP. Under certain circumstances, you may lose your U.S. citizenship by performing any of the following acts: (1) Being naturalized in a foreign state; (2) taking an oath or making a declaration to a foreign state; (3) serving in the armed forces of a foreign state; (4) accepting employment with a foreign government; or (5) formally renouncing U.S. citizenship before a U.S. consular officer overseas. For detailed information consult the nearest American Embassy or Consulate, or contact the Office of Citizens Consular Services, Deparatment of State, Washington DC or call (202) 647-3444.

DUAL CITIZENS. A person who has the citizenship of more than one country at the same time is considered a dual citizen. Citizenship may be based on facts of birth, marriage, parentage, or naturalization. A dual citizen may be subject to all of the laws of the other country thant considers that person its citizen while in its jurisdiction. This includes conscription for military service. Dual citizens who encounter problems abroad should contact the nearest American Embassy or Consulate.

77 posted on 01/24/2002 8:56:03 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: tdadams
Looks like a member of the Manson Family.
78 posted on 01/24/2002 9:26:11 AM PST by veronica
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
He assisted in the burial of thousands of people in NY, DC and Penn.

not really. he mostly just shot and was shot at by northern alliance thugs, as opposed to taliban/al-qaeda thugs.

79 posted on 01/24/2002 9:41:02 AM PST by gfactor
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To: geaux
Simply taking up arms against the U.S. is a renunciation of U.S. citizenship.

wrong:

"Although a person's enlistment in the armed forces of a foreign country may not constitute a violation of U.S. law, it could subject him or her to Section 349(a)(3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act [8 U.S.C. 1481(a)(3)] which provides for loss of U.S. nationality if an American voluntarily and with the intention of relinquishing U.S. citizenship enters or serves in foreign armed forces engaged in hostilities against the United States or serves in the armed forces of any foreign country as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer."

from the state dept

80 posted on 01/24/2002 9:44:21 AM PST by gfactor
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