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Homosexuality Is Key to Some College Scholarships
CNSNews.com ^ | January 21, 2002 | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 01/23/2002 8:43:27 AM PST by tdadams

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To: tdadams;khepera;Dr. Good Will Hunting
I believe in equal protection of the law, like the Constitution says. If there are benefits derived from marriage granted to heterosexuals, those same benefits should not be denied to homosexuals. As it is, which group is receiving "special" rights?

Marriage of hetrosexuals is legal, homosexual marriage is not in 99% of America.

The issue is college scholarships, and that is related to your statement how? I can find thousands of quotes by our founding fathers to support laws based on morals, not on "concenting adults". Which I have already done a few. Homosexuals are not the majority, they are not moral, they do not deserve legal or special protection. Especially if they only want to be consenting adults behind closed doors.

101 posted on 01/24/2002 10:48:07 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: wwjdn
But remember morality is not part of our heritage...

I never said anything even remotely like that. Are you deliberately bearing false witness against me?

Now let us return to the question. You seem to want to change the subject at every turn. The question was, do you think that Jesus admonished us to use violence and imprison people who are guilty of sins which do not involve violation of other's rights?

102 posted on 01/24/2002 10:53:21 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: tdadams
Fair enough. Then tell me how you would handle the case of two committed homosexuals in a long term relationship who wanted to get married. You wouldn't try to stop them? If yes, then you're not being honest in your statement above. If no, then where do we differ?

I am not a doctor, so I don't have any advice as to what to do with two men who want to marry each other. I do believe in concrete truths, and one of them is that the behavior shouldn't be encouraged because it brings no benefit to society--just the opposite.

I'm sorry, but I think you are so entrenched in a self-serving set of values that you can't even understand where someone who's not just like you is coming from.

Again, where have I been self-serving? And I see exactly where you are coming from. You're a relativist.

103 posted on 01/24/2002 10:54:46 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: wwjdn
You can quote Jefferson when it's convenient for you, but I don't see Jefferson saying anything about the evils of homosexuality. In these quotes, he's talking about morality.

We've already seen from your previous posts that you have no problem inventing new meanings for words (morality in this case). Morality is one of the most nebulous words you could find.

To Hitler, exterminating Jews was moral. To you morality would be imprisoning homosexuals for life. That is not moral in my opinion, nor do I think Thomas Jefferson would agree.

Rational, intelligent people detest people like you who stand behind their religion and morality as some kind of absolute, and use it to defend the indefensible.

104 posted on 01/24/2002 10:55:12 AM PST by tdadams
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To: tdadams
It is requirements like these that continue to suck all of the available funds right out of the higher education scholarship system. Shameless bureacrats!!!
106 posted on 01/24/2002 10:56:37 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: wwjdn
Marriage of hetrosexuals is legal, homosexual marriage is not in 99% of America.

And thus is the disparity that I see is a violation of equal protection laws.

107 posted on 01/24/2002 10:58:05 AM PST by tdadams
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To: JMJ333
You're a relativist.

I'm so not a relativist that I'm laughing at reading that. I have firm convictions, many of which are not rooted in a vested interest but merely as a matter of principle.

You may disagree with me, but that doesn't make me relativist.

108 posted on 01/24/2002 10:59:52 AM PST by tdadams
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To: tdadams
If there are benefits derived from marriage granted to heterosexuals, those same benefits should not be denied to homosexuals. As it is, which group is receiving "special" rights?

Government has no business being involved in marriage in any case whatsoever. No benefits should inure to anyone from government concerning anything other than the "benefit" of government defending our rights.

109 posted on 01/24/2002 11:01:10 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: wwjdn
"You can't tolerate a lifestyle by law and then refuse treatment for their legal behavior."

Certainly I can and would. They know the risks. They should be held to the consequences of their decisions just as I should be held to mine.
110 posted on 01/24/2002 11:01:18 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: matamoros
What are those freaks doing to my country?

It's their country too.

111 posted on 01/24/2002 11:03:34 AM PST by tdadams
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To: wwjdn
You can't tolerate a lifestyle by law and then refuse treatment for their legal behavior.

I may tolerate someone's indulgence in smoking, skydiving, or mountain climbing, but I'll tell them to go to h**l if they try to send me their hospital bill when they get sick or injured.

113 posted on 01/24/2002 11:06:35 AM PST by tdadams
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To: matamoros
"What are those freaks doing to my country?"

Evidence suggests it is not your country at all. At least it sure isn't acting like it.
114 posted on 01/24/2002 11:07:15 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: tdadams
We (the majority) don't want the deviates to be equal. They aren't equal, we live in a Republic where the majority still has the majority of the say.
115 posted on 01/24/2002 11:09:13 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: tdadams
the LEAGUE Foundation offers a $2,500 scholarship dedicated to the memory of Matthew Sheppard, whom it considers a model of courage.

Excuse me? Why is he considered a model of courage? I know he endured a lot of pain before his death and that is inexcusable, but don't call him a model of courage. To be in the position to be beaten to death, I believe he had been drinking with the two guys and had 'hit on' one or both of them. Sounds like he wasn't acting very smart to me. Don't get me wrong, he didn't deserve to be beaten to death, but I think its disgusting the way these folks are trying to lionize this guy.

116 posted on 01/24/2002 11:09:15 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: ThomasJefferson
I never said anything even remotely like that. Are you deliberately bearing false witness against me?

Not at all. I merly stated that christian morals are a large part of our heritage. I did not quote you specifically. Sorry if it seemed that I did.

118 posted on 01/24/2002 11:12:34 AM PST by wwjdn
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To: wwjdn
We (the majority) don't want the deviates to be equal. They aren't equal, we live in a Republic where the majority still has the majority of the say.

Up to now, I've really tried to give you every benefit of the doubt.... but the fact of the matter is, that you are a complete and utter dolt.

You richly deserve the fate you're creating for yourself.

119 posted on 01/24/2002 11:13:31 AM PST by OWK
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To: matamoros
If the majority is ruled by good Christian morals this would never ever be an issue.
120 posted on 01/24/2002 11:14:48 AM PST by wwjdn
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