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Detained Britons at Guantanamo Bay have "no complaints"
AFP | 1/21/02

Posted on 01/21/2002 4:42:02 AM PST by kattracks

Three Britons among the suspected al-Qaeda fighters held by US military authorities at a naval base in Cuba are well and have "no complaints" about their treatment, according to a spokesman for Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Quoting a report by British officials who visited the men at the Guantanamo Bay base in Cuba, the spokesman said there was "no sign of any mistreatment."

"The British had no complaints about their treatment," the spokesman said Monday. "They are in good physical health."

"There were no gags, no goggles, no shackles while the detainees are in their cells. They only wear shackles when they are outside," he added.

He said the men had been able to speak "freely and without inhibition," and had asked for messages to be passed to their families, which British officials were now doing.

The detained Britons have also had contact with the Red Cross.


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1 posted on 01/21/2002 4:42:02 AM PST by kattracks
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"There were no gags, no goggles, no shackles while the detainees are in their cells. They only wear shackles when they are outside," he added.
And they must wear coats and ties when they dine.

2 posted on 01/21/2002 4:46:38 AM PST by Asclepius
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I'm waiting to see how widely this is reported.
4 posted on 01/21/2002 4:49:37 AM PST by kattracks
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Awwww shucks! The rabid anti-Americans were hoping they'd find prisoners who had been beaten and starved. What are they going to cry about now?
5 posted on 01/21/2002 4:51:24 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
They'll find something, I'm sure.
6 posted on 01/21/2002 4:57:34 AM PST by kattracks
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To: seamole
Most Brits think that the US is doing the right thing, according to an emails sent in to the BBC Breakfast programme this morning.

Over 90% in favour.

7 posted on 01/21/2002 4:57:47 AM PST by Da_Shrimp
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To: kattracks
(from the BBC)

Monday, 21 January, 2002, 12:46 GMT

Captive Britons have 'no complaints'

Feroz Abbasi has been confirmed as a suspect

The three British al-Qaeda/Taleban suspects being held at Camp X-Ray in Cuba have "no complaints" about their treatment, according to British officials who have seen them.

They only wear shackles when they are outside their cells

The Prime Minister's official spokesman The three are in "good physical health" and are being treated well, according to a British team who have spent the weekend with them.

The Foreign Office has confirmed the name of one of the suspects, Feroz Abbasi, from Croydon, but is refusing to release the names of the other two British men held at the camp.

Another 34 suspects have arrived at the US Naval base in Guantanomo Bay, wearing shackles and black out goggles as they were led off the aircraft.

'No mistreatment'

The Prime Minister's official spokesman said the government had received a report from British officials on Monday morning.

He said the government would now take time to study the report in detail.

Pictures released last week raised fears about human rights

"We said people should not rush into judgement and now we know the facts," the spokesman said.

The three British nationals in the camp were "able to speak freely and without inhibition," he added.

"There is no sign of any mistreatment.

"They have also had contact with the Red Cross.

"They asked for a number of messages to be passed on to their families, which we are doing.

"There were no gags, no goggles, no ear muffs and no shackles while they were in their cells.

"They only wear shackles when they are outside their cells."

'Helpful and open'

He said the three suspects "get three meals a day, including a "pre-packed Islamic meal for lunch", as much water as they need and daily medical checks.

"The Red Cross is arranging for them to have copies of the Koran," the prime minister's spokesman added.

"They have also been provided with washing materials and calls to prayer are being broadcast over the camp public address system."

The prisoner's cells were "basic but fit" and the US military authorities had been "helpful and open throughout the visit," he said.

Pictures in the press over the weekend showing bound and gagged men were taken shortly after the suspects arrived in Cuba, the spokesman said.

The British team were there to assess their identity and welfare.

Geneva convention

The prime minister "thinks people should not rush to judgement but should establish the facts.

His view remains that the assurances we were given that they were being treated in humane conditions is the case.

The US has said they are being held in accordance with the Geneva convention," the spokesman said.

Earlier, Mr Abbasi's MP, Geraint Davies, was among Labour backbenchers expressing their worries about the way the men were being treated.

He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "The perception of the treatment as opposed to the real treatment is counter productive in the Muslim community."

Mr Davies said the Muslim community in general supported the action against terror groups in Afghanistan but uncertainty about conditions at Camp X-Ray did not help.

There are 144 prisoners at the base, after the arrival of 34 more suspects early on Monday. The camp is eventually expected to hold more than 300 detainees.

The officials - believed to include British intelligence officers - flew back to Washington on Sunday.

While Downing Street does not want to be seen as criticising the US over the treatment of prisoners at Camp X-Ray, it is clear there is concern, especially from a number of Labour MPs.

Humane treatment

Mr Straw said: "The British Government's position is that prisoners - regardless of their technical status - should be treated humanely and in accordance with customary international law.

"We have always made that clear and the Americans have said they share this view." The US - which maintains the detainees are being treated humanely - refuses to call them prisoners of war, referring to them as illegal combatants.

Under the Geneva Convention, PoWs must be tried by the same courts and under the same procedures as US soldiers.

Under that status, prisoners would be tried for war crimes through courts-martial or civilian courts, not by secretive military tribunals which could impose the death penalty.

(I wonder what the Afghan women who were beaten, raped and shot think of all this concern for these animals/prisoners?)

8 posted on 01/21/2002 4:59:41 AM PST by blam
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Detained Britons at Guantanamo Bay have "no complaints"

Then we must be doing something wrong.

9 posted on 01/21/2002 5:00:30 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: kattracks
Liberal anti-war types and their enablers in the media (The Sunday Mail tabloid for example) were responsible for the tissy fit yesterday about the detainees in Cuba. I suspect the vast majority of Brits are OK with our methods used to hold these terrorists at Camp X-Ray.
10 posted on 01/21/2002 5:00:38 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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I hope you're right.
11 posted on 01/21/2002 5:02:51 AM PST by kassie
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And they must wear coats and ties when they dine.

For God's sake, man, button your jacket! What if my mother or sister should drop in? A chap needs to look decent!

12 posted on 01/21/2002 5:06:04 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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The Europeans are angry not because the criminals are being mistreated, but because the Americans feel the need to punish criminals at all.

In the European mind, punishment is outdated and draconian. When someone does something wrong, you talk to him about his feelings to try to understand why he did what he did.

13 posted on 01/21/2002 5:07:20 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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I hope you're right.

He is. See Post #7!

14 posted on 01/21/2002 5:10:34 AM PST by Da_Shrimp
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Detained Britons at Guantanamo Bay have "no complaints"

So what's the next Lie of the Week?

16 posted on 01/21/2002 5:12:42 AM PST by aculeus
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To: seamole
*LOL*

If only! Oh well, if Tone keeps playing the international stage at the expense of policies right here at home, he may well be out on his arse next election.

I was watching BBC Breakfast this morning as I was getting ready for work and most people were emailing comments along the lines of 'they deserve it', 'don't forget September 11th' etc.

17 posted on 01/21/2002 5:21:43 AM PST by Da_Shrimp
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of Our buddy Castro is playing a few international head games, to get back at the US for keeping the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay...Castro has been trying to get rid of that base for years and would rather not have the world reminded that it exists. Tony Blair's political opponents are just taking advantage of it.
18 posted on 01/21/2002 5:28:34 AM PST by cake_crumb
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Uh huh.. and how many of the Afghan prisoners get to send messages to THEIR families. I can't believe we can just sit by watching men live in cages without shelter from the rain or elements and say they deserve it when they may only be foot soldiers who thought they were fighting for their homeland.

Should we prosecute the perps? YES! But even the tent city jail in Arizona are constantly criticized as inhumane.

19 posted on 01/21/2002 5:29:39 AM PST by nsmart
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Good...that's what they should be saying. I am SICK AND TIRED of hearing about how we are treating the "detainees". Dammit, they would do 911 all over again if they could...and who knows what they're planning anyway.

The sickest thing about this is that it all STARTED with our OWN liberal media.

ARGH!!!!

20 posted on 01/21/2002 5:30:27 AM PST by DJ88
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