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OK, Let It Be a White Statue
Newsday ^ | January 17, 2002 | Clarence Page

Posted on 01/18/2002 12:28:27 AM PST by sarcasm

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:51 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I GUESS ALL that national unity and good feeling that followed the tragedies of Sept. 11 was just too good to last.

A planned memorial to honor the 343 firefighters who died at the World Trade Center has sparked a firestorm of its own.

Let's just say that some people don't like the way it recolors history.

The proposed 19-foot bronze statue is based on the now-famous news photo of three firemen raising an American flag over the rubble at Ground Zero.


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To: sarcasm
After reading this essay from Clarence Page regarding the New York Fireman's statue being changed to a black, hispanic and a white man I have to wonder if any rational white person would have objected to the racial depictions in the proposed statue had the men who raised the flag actually been black or latino.
I wouldn't. Reality is reality and the flag-raising was an act of patriotism and defiance of our enemies, not a racial protest. It was also historical. Page, as usual, doesn't get it.

This liberal insistence on changing reality and history to suit some misguided sense of racial equality is absurd and one hopes that it's continued use will do much to weaken the destructive 'PC' mentality among most thinking Americans in the years to come.

81 posted on 01/18/2002 5:51:42 AM PST by Jim Scott
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To: JeanS
The book to read is "1984"
85 posted on 01/18/2002 6:02:13 AM PST by Baseballguy
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To: Chad Fairbanks; KLT
I'm proud to be an American Indian, but I'm even MORE proud to be an American.

I was unaware of the enslavement of American-Indians, beyond the name.

Afterall, Amerigo Vespuci is the name sake of the country!!

In other words you were called Indians by Columbus because he thought he was in India, and the America should be evident!

We have no word for your people, except 'original'!!

That is why I say America is an Italian Country, it was discovered by one and named after another!!

87 posted on 01/18/2002 6:10:15 AM PST by Nitro
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To: Nitro
In the late 1500s, the Spanish cruised the east coast of what later became America, and kidnapped American Indians, and sold thm into slavery in the caribbean... other instances of this occurred during the colonial period, as well, by the english, but not often, and usually only occurred during or after wars...

I think the reason the practice stopped was because those they took and enslaved died very quickly in captivity (possibly the climate differences played a part in this). So, they had to look elsewhere for more reliable slaves. ;0)

Ain't history fun? :0)

89 posted on 01/18/2002 6:25:15 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: sarcasm
It's not a "white" statue. It's a REALISTIC statue. Case closed.
90 posted on 01/18/2002 6:28:30 AM PST by LurkerTurnedPoster
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To: Jeff Head
Bump?
91 posted on 01/18/2002 6:30:09 AM PST by Free Trapper
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To: Nitro
And another reason was because, usually, the Indians fought back against the slave-takers. I know of some instances of this that occurred in Florida, in Mobile, Alabama (an Indian stronghold known as Mabila, at the time), a legendary instance of this in Trinidad Colorado (Purgatory River), and other cases where rather than be enslaved, the indians fought back... I wonder why it is that the African Blacks didn't fight back against the "whites taking slaves"??? Could it possibly be that the africans were sold into slavery by their fellow africans??? Could be... I wonder why people don't mention that?????
92 posted on 01/18/2002 6:35:07 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: sarcasm
Still, there's no rule that says a statue has to be an exact replica, even when it is based on a well-known photo.

Newsday is as liberal as they come.

And liberals are 100% opposed to the truth in any way, shape, or form.

So it follows that they would champion a lie in the form of a misrepresentative statue.

93 posted on 01/18/2002 6:35:19 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: GeorgeVIII
I'm sorry, that kid is just to pretty to be a "Hobbit." I have him pegged as Ian McKellen's B*tt Boy.

--Boris

94 posted on 01/18/2002 6:37:14 AM PST by boris
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To: sarcasm
Clarence Page has provided the perfect article to illustrate how offensive it was for the statue creators to perform their racialist distortion in the first place. The statue was supposed to honor the firefighters who fought so bravely and sacrificed so much in a moment of crisis.

Now, due to nothing but PC meddling, the left has all but forgotten the bravery of the New York firemen. Instead of lauding them with honor, they now deride and scorn the FDNY as a symbol of white oppression.

This was very predictable, because results of living out the Left's diversity dogma are always division and hatred, rather than unity and mutual respect.

95 posted on 01/18/2002 6:37:50 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: nopardons
I always knew that Clarence Page was an idiot;

I caught up with Clarence Page on the Diane Reim show on NPR one day. I called in on some topic or another, pretty much disassembled his argument point by point, and left him a stammering mass of skin.

That is when I realized he is an intellectual lightweight. I'm no Einstein, but I made short work of him, meaning he is far below average in intelligence.

96 posted on 01/18/2002 6:40:00 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: sarcasm
What color statue?

Reminds me of an incident in the 60's during the forced bussing days.....

Two black kids got on the bus and sat in the front of the bus. All the kids started yelling for them to go to the back of the bus.

The bus driver stopped the bus and said "everybody off the bus". Then he said "from now on everybody is green"....."now get back on the bus....all the dark green kids go the back of the bus and all the light green kids sit up front....."

97 posted on 01/18/2002 6:42:13 AM PST by TRY ONE
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To: Free Trapper; LurkerTurnedPoster; sarcasm; Jim Scott; All
I believe that the comment from the online petition, from signator number 11497, sums up the issue best. I posted it several times yesterday on several threads. For those who didn;t see it, and to put it on this thread as well, here it is:
"WHAT A PATHETIC NATION WE HAVE BECOME when we have to alter history, and the TRUTH, to accomodate bleeding heart liberal, blood sucking interest groups. I am of hispanic origin, my parents were born in Puerto Rico, but i was born here, in the land God himself chose to be America. So what if the firemen who raised our glorious flag were white, they were AMERICANS, showing cowards we cant be pushed around. If you poor unloved, misunderstood crybabies want to be represented in the monument, take a close look and see that you are, in the flag itself. The glorious flag that will wave long after we're all eaten by worms. Political correctness has become morally and politically incorrect. Wake up and smell the coffee before we destroy ourselves. signed, an AMERICAN."
I hope to meet this guy sometime.
98 posted on 01/18/2002 6:48:05 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: sarcasm
The white faces on that re-creation of the flag-raising at Iwo Jima have always reminded some of us of how far we Americans have come from the segregated military of those days.

Clarence, you're a snivelling, totally self absorbed, nickle plated A-hole. Take your whiny race baiting & shove it.

99 posted on 01/18/2002 6:53:40 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Chad Fairbanks
That gets me and mine off the hook, we got here in the 1890's and we were damn glad to arrive!!

I was a Boy Scout and I learned to appreciate the Indian way, I still do!!

100 posted on 01/18/2002 6:54:36 AM PST by Nitro
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