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RNC, at Urging of Bush, to install Eisenberg, a liberal, pro-abortion activist, as RNC Finance Chair
THE WASHINGTON TIMES/ RNC/Life FaxNotes ^

Posted on 01/17/2002 8:04:06 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A right-left split is straining the Republican big tent as the party's national committee prepares to meet in Texas this week.

Committee sources said that party officials have been maneuvering to keep ideological tensions from erupting into a public dispute in Austin.


(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortionlist; catholiclist; christianlist; prolife
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To: weikel
"...Your 1st loyalty should be to America not to Rome would you rather live in a communist state where abortion was illegal then America today....

You are a farcical bigot. If, as Marx said, history reapeats itself--first as tragedy--then as farce; could it be there is another turn of Dame Fortuna in which farce becomes Truth? Or will it be nothing more than another tragedy?

I believe his loyalty is to "The Lord". Of course, you think George is "The Lord" don't you? My, my. What tiny, colorless dreams you have....

201 posted on 01/17/2002 1:00:26 PM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: Aristophanes
The man has no pro-life convictions, none.

That's a lie, but of course you already knew that.

202 posted on 01/17/2002 1:00:50 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: proud2bRC
Christie Todd Whitman........I always knew she would be trouble.........along with her friends!
203 posted on 01/17/2002 1:01:29 PM PST by mickie
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To: Wait4Truth
During the period of their dual control (1995 - 2001), if I recall correctly, they sent a PBA bill to the Perverted President twice and he veto'd it...The GOP had control of the Senate at the start of last year.... and blew it..... it was more important to argue about $$$$$$$ than the lives of babes about to be murdered....and then one of those trusty dependable RINOs took a walk and the GOP lost their majorityship....and conservatives was left sucking hind teat again.
204 posted on 01/17/2002 1:01:55 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Republican Wildcat
"... What does the position of finance chairman have to do with the platform of the party? ..."

Your question betrays such a catastrophic level of ignorance of the ways and means of modern American politics that I can only conclude your lobotomy is not going as well as the doctor promised....

206 posted on 01/17/2002 1:03:39 PM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: antidisestablishment
As I recall, there were at least two bills to ban or severely restrict partial birth abortion that were passed by the Republican Congress, but were vetoed by President Clinton. Unfortunately, the Republican majority was not large enough to override the veto.
207 posted on 01/17/2002 1:04:47 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
See #170. It was a ignoble farce played by the most despicable cowards ever to hold office. We should kick them all out, not elect more like them.
208 posted on 01/17/2002 1:10:30 PM PST by antidisestablishment
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To: Harrison Bergeron
I think you missed my point, Harrison. I thought Schundler was a tremendous mainstream conservative candidate. Keyes is great.

However, mainstream conservatives are no longer mainstream Republicans. The Republican Party is actually the CINO Party. Conservative in name only. This is why its presidential nominees can joke that they haven't even read the platform. The joke, of course, is on those who actually read the platform, fight for its principles, and think the GOP candidates actually believe in them (or anything.)

While there are certainly Republican candidates I respect and admire, I have very little respect for the GOP as a whole. I think Riordan, Guilani, Eisenberg, Spectre, and Bloomberg are more representative of the Republican establishment than Keyes and Schundler. Since the Republican establishment certainly can not be considered RINO, those the establishment opposes, the conservatives, are actually the real RINO's - - not that there is anything wrong with that.

209 posted on 01/17/2002 1:10:50 PM PST by IM2Phat4U
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To: Rowdee
Oops! You were faster than me at bringing this up.
210 posted on 01/17/2002 1:13:21 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: antidisestablishment
If they force us out there won't be a party!

This would be a RINO's wet dream, to have conservatives dump the Republican party. Then the RINOs can join together with the liberal Dems (who are really one in the same) to create the Socialistic government that they truly adore.

I hate RINOs almost as much as I hate DemocRats, but unfortunately, the only way conservatives currently can fight the Washington establishment is through affiliation with the Republican party. I do think, however, that conservatives need to get a little bit nastier towards the establishment Repubs to let them know that we mean business. If it means throwing someone like Eisenberg overboard, so be it. The Republicans already raise more cash than the Dems, so not placing a liberal elitist in the fundraising position is no great loss.

211 posted on 01/17/2002 1:14:57 PM PST by Major Matt Mason
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To: antidisestablishment
Perhaps I'm naive, but I don't call it a farce. I had hoped that it would be brought up again, and still do hold out hope. But darn that UBL!
212 posted on 01/17/2002 1:15:21 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: Dane
About that impeachment thing.....had the Republican Senators not bent over and held their ankles for the Democrats and actually demanded (and they would have gotten by virtue of their majority) a trial enough pressure could have been brought to bear by the presentation of evidence to the public that it is quite likely there would ahve been an impeachment.

Funny now, about the only folks talking about their 'love' for the Pervert is his butt boys and party hacks.

But it was more important to Stand Down and Be Counted Against Elitist Crimes---every single one of the GOP Senators from then should be thrown out for breaking their oath of office. The exact same thing for the Democrats....instead, we get excuses.

213 posted on 01/17/2002 1:16:45 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Harrison Bergeron
..."I'm no Keyes fan by any stretch off the imagination. But he's being proven right with every new RNC initiative"...

It's a real b***h when a principled guy can't get elected....but principles wasn't high on the Republican elitists agenda.

214 posted on 01/17/2002 1:20:38 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Harrison Bergeron
Basically, I agree with your sentiments. Party in the end means nothing to me, because "sometimes party asks too much" (JFK).

I am a conservative before I am a republican, and I believe that if he is in charge of the purse strings he will be willing and able to influence the size of legislators coffers, and subsequently policy. I like GW, but I will only follow his lead so far. They won't have to ask me to leave; I will be long gone. I know that I am just one voter and that my vote really doesn't mean that much, contrary to the perpetual protestations of the "get out the vote" people.

Maybe the Rudmans and the McCains of the GOP are right; there is no place at their table for us. That's ok with me. I'm not that keen on the cuisine they plan to serve.

215 posted on 01/17/2002 1:24:03 PM PST by Aedammair
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To: Major Matt Mason
I've got to agree. But like I said (and you seconded) it's time to fight, not lay down. I, for one, am ready for Rhino hunts. Even though we're the "poor, ignrunt, unwashed" masses in the eyes of the elite, we are the masses and we can overcome them by sheer numbers.
216 posted on 01/17/2002 1:24:38 PM PST by antidisestablishment
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To: Dog Gone
YOu believe the Repubs followed their special oath of office for impeachment proceedings? Have you read what David Schippers has said, which by the way hasn't been denied by any of othe House Managers or Senators?

He said they voted to a man and woman to agree to go along with the Democrats wishes on the 'trial'.....that's why we got the Kangaroo Court.

217 posted on 01/17/2002 1:24:43 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: proud2bRC
Here I post an excerpt from Access: The Key To Pro-Life Victory, by Mark Crutcher of Life Dynamics, Inc.

Absent Allies

One of the pro-life movement's biggest frustrations has always been that the people who should be our biggest allies, the Republican Party and the church, have shown neither the character nor the courage to join the fight.

I include the church and politicians in the same section because I think they have entered into a kind of unholy alliance with each other. It's not that they all sat down in a room and cooked up some giant conspiracy, it's more like a conspiracy that naturally evolved from a common agenda.

It works something like this. First, the nation's politicians tell us to go away, claiming that abortion is a religious issue and not the sort of thing in which politicians should become involved. Then, the church tells us to go away becauuse abortion is a political issue and not something in which the church should become involved.

Of course, both know that this argument is complete rubbish, but the rhetoric surrounding it makes them feel more at ease with their cowardice, plus it gives them an excuse to throw us out of their offices.

It now appears that these guys intend to work this scam until we either give up or drop dead. That may sound farfetched, but I guarantee you that if the pro-life movement called a press conference to announce that it was going to surrender and disband, the three happiest institutions in America would be the abortion industry, the Republican Party, and the church.

In the case of the Republican Party, the first thing we need to understand is that it is totally unsuited for the abortion battle. Since the day this struggle began, it has always been clear that it is the political equivalent of a brawl in a waterfront bar. Unfortunately, the Republican Party is made up of a bunch of guys whose mammas dressed them for college. They might go into a waterfront bar, but when the first punch is thrown, the only thing you can be certain of is that you're about to hear the unmistakable pitter-patter of fine leather wingtips stampeding toward the door.

On the other hand, this is exactly the kind of fight that the Democratic Party relishes. Since the sixties, it has devolved into a political sanctuary for every kind of moral degenerate and social misfit known to man. In a political bar fight, they are totally amoral people who will lie, cheat, steal, or wallow in the filthiest cesspool, if that's what it takes to win. And they absolutely scare the Republicans to death.

A second problem with the GOP is that the gated-community, limousine liberals who control it are about as interested in abortion as a fish is in a bicycle. These people are motivated by money, and there is simply no money in saving babies.

The next time someone says to you that the right to life is a "core value" with the Republican Party, ask them if that's the same Republican Party which routinely

(a) backs pro-abortion candidates against pro-life candidates in the primaries,

(b) uses contributions from pro-lifers to help elect pro-abortion Republicans over pro-life Democrats,

(c) supports pro-abortion organizations like Republicans for Choice,

(d) awards influential party leadership positions to hard-core pro-aborts,

(e) votes to confirm pro-abortion judges to the federal bench,

(f) runs candidates for president who won't commit to name only pro-lifers to the Supreme Court, and

(g) appropriates taxpayer dollars to fund openly pro-abortion organizations like Planned Parenthood.

Anyone who thinks those are the actions of a political party which sees the right to life as a "core value" is about two french fries short of a Happy Meal."




218 posted on 01/17/2002 1:26:58 PM PST by toenail
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To: IM2Phat4U
Sooo... the republican party being openly and successfully liberal, the conservatives in the party are the real RINOs, and the establishment hacks are upgraded to CINOs. Makes perfect sense to me.

Whether the CINOs and democrats like it or not, eventually, a true conservative party must emerge and replace one existing party or the other. Either that, or we're watching the Republic swirl down the loo as we pound these very keyboards.

219 posted on 01/17/2002 1:33:19 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: ignatz_q
So we shake out all these millions of people over to the Democrats and then...? How do you propose we win elections once we have been, as you seem to be suggesting, purified?

Well, the Democrats seem to have a good bit of success, in spite of being a purely liberal party. Who is to say that conservatives can't eventually do the same with the Republican party? It will require, of course, that conservatives work hard to convince voters of all stripes that our view of government is the correct view. In order to do this, our message can't be watered down, like it is now with the RINOs working at cross-purposes with conservatives.

Your statement seems to imply that the Republican party has had some major conservative successes in the past 6-7 years- I can think of welfare reform, which was really half a loaf, but not many others. The recent tax cut was so puny it was laughable, yet Republicans had to be pushed kicking and screaming to muster the courage to push it through.

The bottom line is, conservatives don't have much to hang their hats on in the current Republican party. Do we try to turn the Repub party into a purely conservative party, at the risk of losing a bunch of liberals? The better question is, is the alternative any better?

220 posted on 01/17/2002 1:37:29 PM PST by Major Matt Mason
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