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RNC, at Urging of Bush, to install Eisenberg, a liberal, pro-abortion activist, as RNC Finance Chair
THE WASHINGTON TIMES/ RNC/Life FaxNotes ^

Posted on 01/17/2002 8:04:06 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A right-left split is straining the Republican big tent as the party's national committee prepares to meet in Texas this week.

Committee sources said that party officials have been maneuvering to keep ideological tensions from erupting into a public dispute in Austin.


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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortionlist; catholiclist; christianlist; prolife
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To: IM2PHAT4U
"Guys like Keyes and Schundler (who are always opposed by the party establishment) may be the real RINO's."

And stick this in your pipe and smoke it: If Schundler was too far right for the Republican party, why was it conveniently ignored that he won the Jersey city mayoralty - twice! - with a 70% democrat minority voter base? It would seem, if the DNC apologists on this thread were sincere about a broad church for the republican party, then Schundler would have been shown the red carpet and groomed for national office.

The DNC, hypocrits and sellouts all.

161 posted on 01/17/2002 11:30:48 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Oschisms
..."He's in no position to influence infanticide policy. Who cares?"....

As Finance Chairman, would he not have a say in which campaigns get financing? I believe you'll find that the influence can be amazing.

162 posted on 01/17/2002 11:31:24 AM PST by Rowdee
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To: m1911
Geez, I get nothing right today. Ike had the slimmest majority to work against.
163 posted on 01/17/2002 11:32:05 AM PST by m1911
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To: IM2PHAT4U
"The DRNC, hypocrites and sellouts all."
164 posted on 01/17/2002 11:33:38 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: IM2PHAT4U, Gracey
Damn, I'm so mad I'm confusing "RNC" with "DNC" - What the heck, we won't be able to tell the difference in a few years.
165 posted on 01/17/2002 11:36:10 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Askel5
..."I'm sure the faithful will come around in no time."...

I'm not sure how you meant that....but I would suggest it should read, "The Republican Party is sure the faithful will come around in no time; after all, where else can they go".

166 posted on 01/17/2002 11:39:01 AM PST by Rowdee
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To: Harrison Bergeron
There's a difference?
167 posted on 01/17/2002 11:39:12 AM PST by WhiteGuy
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To: Harrison Bergeron
Damn, I'm so mad I'm confusing "RNC" with "DNC" - What the heck, we won't be able to tell the difference in a few years.

There's a difference between the parties? What, pray tell, would those differences be, at least in terms of real legislation passed, and not hot-winded rhetoric?

168 posted on 01/17/2002 11:40:32 AM PST by Major Matt Mason
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To: WhiteGuy
Yeah, I guess good intentions are good enough for you.

Yeah, and I guess demanding the impossible seems reasonable to you.

169 posted on 01/17/2002 11:41:02 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: hchutch
The PBA is a great example. PBA was brought up to X42 because the craven maggots in the Senate could play both sides of the field. They could vote "against" PBA knowing damn well and good that the perpetrator in chief would never sign it. Why hasn't it come up since? Thay are liars, cowards and murderers! And now you tell me that if we fill the rows with more "moderate" ("fiscally conservative, socially liberal," (murderous)) Senators while good prolife candidates are run out of town, we will mysteriously end up on top. How do you figure?!!

I saw what Bush's camp did at our state convention--like totally eviscerate our platform. Hell, it looked like the NEA wrote the thing! I support Bush, but he had better quit screwing around with the party's base, because while the neocons have the money; us little bastards keep the party running. If they force us out there won't be a party!

170 posted on 01/17/2002 11:42:47 AM PST by antidisestablishment
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To: Rowdee, Gracey, IM2PHAT4U
"THE CONSERVATIVE'S WAKE-UP CALL HAS JUST BEEN SOUNDED!!!!! If this is the Republican idea of being across the 'ideological spectrum', I just found a beautiful bridge, right here in Idaho....give me a few minutes to clean it up and I'll sell to ya cheap--real cheap!!!

I feel like a dog who can't let go of a bone today. If the RNC were serious about the "ideological spectrum" and fielding candidates who appeal to democrats and minorities... Whitman and DiFrancesco wouldn't have gotten away with flushing the NJ gubernatorial race down the toilet by screwing the candidate who proved that there's room for everybody in the republican party.

They didn't simply let Schundler down, they actively campaigned against him among the elected officials in the NJ republican party.

171 posted on 01/17/2002 11:44:49 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Aristophanes
I suspect that if the GOP had a monpoly in all three branches of government, they would whine that they can't get anything done because of the high number of democrats on the Capitol building's janitorial staff.

Republican politicians "capitulate" to democrat politicians because they share the same goals, basically. They pretend that the advancement of the socialist agenda is happening against their will in order to maintain the illusion that there are two parties in opposition to each other.

172 posted on 01/17/2002 11:46:15 AM PST by Twodees
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To: RussianBear716
Bush is playing the mile wide and an inch deep while the Democrats cross over and they gain the power they seek. Not with my vote. I will not vote for this crap of voting for the lesser of two evils, guess what you vote for evil either way.I'll vote when they give me the choice of the lesser of two Good men.
173 posted on 01/17/2002 11:49:06 AM PST by Micah
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To: antidisestablishment
"And now you tell me that if we fill the rows with more "moderate" ("fiscally conservative, socially liberal," (murderous)) Senators while good prolife candidates are run out of town, we will mysteriously end up on top. How do you figure?!! "

It's the perennial loser strategy of "Let's let the other side win - it will galvanize our cause!" I never understood it. The best explanation I can guess is cowardice. Either that or outright deceipt.

174 posted on 01/17/2002 11:52:02 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Rowdee
As Finance Chairman, would he not have a say in which campaigns get financing? I believe you'll find that the influence can be amazing.

Point #1: I believe his job to be in charge of fundraising. The RNC chairman decides on strategy, meaning which candidates get which check. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Point #2: Having a say in which campaigns get financing is not an infanticide policy. Your post in no way challenges my original assertation.

Point #3: If you're going to say that he can influence infanticide policy to some miniscule degree, so can a hundred thousand government officials. If one would make them ALL pass a test of ideological purity, one would feel more comfortable in a one party government.

175 posted on 01/17/2002 12:00:11 PM PST by Oschisms
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To: patent
Actually he doesn't decide who gets the cash, he raises it and turns it over to the RNC campaign committe, they distribute it.

When waging war you need to understand what battles to fight and where and when to fight them. This is a tempest in a teapot.

Bush needs the pro abortion crowd to win, I don't like it but reality is what it is. He also needs the pro lifers to win. He seems to take the tact of placing pro abortion types in positions where they don't effect policy. Eisenberg as a fundraiser, Whitman at EPA, Powell at State. Then puts pro life canidates in places like HHS and on the courts, solicitor general Atty General ect.

People like Gary Bauer are tatical morons, that's why they made NO progress on limiting/eliminating abortion in 30 years. This is a war no a PR campaign. If Bush appoints a known pro abortion candidate to the supreme court then this is a big time problem. Letting a pro abortion candidate who knows how to raise money in a position to raise money is NBD.

176 posted on 01/17/2002 12:02:51 PM PST by Leto
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To: PhiKapMom;proud2bRc;Askel5;toenail
Using this man's appointment as not affecting appointment of S/C justices is a bit of a red herring...but you brought up the word "fundraiser".

The idea this guy is needed or the GOP won't raise money is bogus--the GOP consistently out collects the Democrats.

..."If one-issue folks sit on their hands and don't vote for Republicans, then you can kiss goodbye any chance of getting even partial birth abortion banned..."....

The chance for a ban on partial birth abortion was over when candidate Bush, along with Hyde, and Quayle, voted against Tim Lambert's Resolution which would have forbidden the Republican Party from giving funds to candidates WHO SUPPORT PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION! In other words, Candidate Bush was willing to spend party members' monies to fund candidates who were happy to kill babies by the most horrid methods just so they could win the election. Logically, how could a bill banning partial birth abortions ever reach his desk if there's enough PRO BABY KILLERS to defeat it on the floor of the House or Senate.

I don't believe anyone who wants to win an election over the body of a baby who's had its brains sucked out isn't worthy of holding office....that includes Hyde, Quayle, and yes, Bush.

Evil is evil....and if a 'Christian' is for this, they are evil.

177 posted on 01/17/2002 12:03:53 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Leto
"Actually he doesn't decide who gets the cash, he raises it and turns it over to the RNC campaign committe, they distribute it. "

So when he solicits and receives money from the gay lobby, the feminist lobby, and the environmentalist lobby, it won't effect the agenda at all.... riiggghhhtttt.

178 posted on 01/17/2002 12:06:45 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Harrison Bergeron
It's the perennial loser strategy of "Let's let the other side win - it will galvanize our cause!" I never understood it. The best explanation I can guess is cowardice. Either that or outright deceipt.

It the strategy of "Let's become the other side to win--to hell with everything else!" that I can't understand. Not only is it a losing strategy, it is deceit. Conservatives win big when they stick to their principles, it’s when they run to the left (not middle) that they lose. If we allow funds to be tilted toward establishement (liberal) candidates, there won't be any conservative issues advanced. It’s really not hard to understand, just open your eyes. We already have public opinion, all we need is real leadership.

Reagan and the 94 election are indicative of my strategy. Give me one instance when your strategy of capitulation has accomplished anything for the conservative cause.

179 posted on 01/17/2002 12:09:24 PM PST by antidisestablishment
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To: proud2bRC
Why is this "breaking news"? You DO understand what the "breaking news" category is for, right? Try posting your "anti abortion" article as a regular item and then pinging all the folks you want to discuss it with...

Breaking news guidelines... use a little common sense. This is important news, pehaps, but breaking news, no way.

180 posted on 01/17/2002 12:15:27 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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