Posted on 01/17/2002 8:04:06 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I know that all of Nixon's appointees had to go through a demo senate. I am not sure how many of Eisenhower's had to be confirmed by a demo senate.
So it's only right that republicans tap those skanky veins, huh? Wake up and smell the coffee. Based on their calculated shafting of Shcundler in NJ, and their distancing themselves from what we used to call the "moral majority," they don't seek, nor do they want conservative money. Ergo, they have no intention of furthering a conservative agenda. The sellout is complete.
I'm no Keyes fan by any stretch off the imagination. But he's being proven right with every new RNC initiative.
Apparently, not in New Jersey we're not.
The pubbies HAD the senate.
Briefly, and barely. Since they didn't get the entire Republican platform passed into law during that period, we should make sure they're all defeated next time, right?
They also HAD the opportunity to rid our nation of Bill Clinton.
Simply false. 67 votes were required, and the Republicans had 55, even if we count the RINOs.
The pubbies chose to ignore their oaths and do nothing.
False again. They tried. We can argue whether they tried hard enough and whether it would have made any difference, but to say they didn't try is revisionist history. The Dems and the media told us that Clinton would never be impeached.
For this they ask for our continued support?
Continued? LOL. Somehow I doubt whether you've supported them anytime lately.
It was alot easier for them to not even try.
I wonder what might have happened had the gop senators showed some leadership, and presented their case in front of the American People. I wonder.
It was pathetic. Don't make excuses for them.
I guess Trent and the boys listened huh?
at least they tried
Yeah, I guess good intentions are good enough for you.
Apparently, not in New Jersey we're not.
Which brings me to the next question. Who are really the RINO's? Lately, I have been begun to believe that guys like Eisenberg, Guiliani, Bloomberg, and Riordan are the real Republicans. Guys like Keyes and Schundler (who are always opposed by the party establishment) may be the real RINO's.
Perhaps, we have had it wrong all along. Moderates and liberals are the real Republicans. Arlen Spectre is a real Republican. RINO's are the good guys. Remember how the party establishment treated Bob Dornan. Dornan is actually a RINO!
Wrong! Conservatives do have an agenda, which goes beyond the abortion issue, in spite of some of the blather on this thread.
The problem is that the people supposedly representing the conservative side- i.e. the Republicans - aren't a truly conservative party, but are instead a variation on the big government theme that dominates the D.C. culture. The Republicans pass a wimpy tax cut, and they think that will somehow appease the conservatives in the party for the next 2 years. Meanwhile, the vast majority of legislation passed since '95 does little but add to the already bloated size of the federal government.
When was the last time that the Republicans fought tooth-and-nail, I mean really raised a ruckus, to get what could be called conservative legislation passed? The liberals never stop doing this, which is why this country is a mess, but that is a subject for another thread. While I despise everything the liberals stand for, I will admit to admiring their tenaciousness when it comes to passing their agenda. The Republicans, OTOH, are either gutless cowards, or willing enablers of the liberal agenda.
I still object, however, to giving the "Party" over to people who are pro-abort for any reason!
We are living in a time of unpresidented patriotism, under a leader who's popularity is awesome! Fringe groups such as PETA, Enviro-wakos (et. al.), NOW, and "gay-rights" groups are losing momentum...and the Rats are making themselves look worse every passing day!
If now is not the time for a strong conservative message to be sent...just when can we expect it?
It's probably better to refer to conservatives as the doormats that the RINOs and Dem libs wipe their feet on as they continue their inexorable march towards socialism in the U.S.
THE CONSERVATIVE'S WAKE-UP CALL HAS JUST BEEN SOUNDED!!!!! If this is the Republican idea of being across the 'ideological spectrum', I just found a beautiful bridge, right here in Idaho....give me a few minutes to clean it up and I'll sell to ya cheap--real cheap!!!
ROTFLMAO!!
What balderdash. The people voted for a republican senate, the dems just stole it anyway, because they would murder their own mothers to keep the right to kill. They needed an elected republican senator to switch parties to give them control. They elected a dead man to the senate and seated his widow. They had dead people, people made up out of whole cloth, aliens, felons, and household pets vote for said dead man - one dead man even filed suit (in St. Louis) to keep the polls open longer in dem heavy districts when it looked like all the previous cheating might not be enough. They stole the senate election in Washington state, by a whisker, with a "vote often" mail-in ballot scam. Democratic machine voting fraud, ever present but little discussed in American politics for generations, reached epic proportions in the last election. They ran the wife of the sitting president in NY, an unprecedented piece of hubris and ambition, and the popular but liberal republican opponent withdrew from the race. They tried to steal the presidential election with partisan judges. They don't give a rat's rear about democracy or the will of the people or how people actually vote. If people don't vote the right way, like our servicemen, then they throw their votes in the garbage. The whole idea of Roe was to remove the right to murder from the purview of the people, as beyond their competence to decide.
Pretending the grass roots activists haven't yet held up their side of the bargain won't wash any more. They have delivered public opinion, and they are delivering the votes. The remaining obstacles are all "inside baseball", the obstructionism of entrenched elites willing to break every rule to impose their enlightened faith in murder on an unwilling populace. Which means the time has arrived for the country clubbers to deliver their end of the bargain. "Give us public opinion first", they asked - and it has been done. "Give us the votes" they asked - and it has been done. The mountains have been moved. It remains for them to keep their end and support the policy choice of those they represent in the inside baseball side of politics, instead of siding with the elite of the rival party against the grass roots of their own. Which is a test of whether they were sincere all along, in wanting the mountains moved first, or whether that was only an excuse to mask their hypocrisy and solicit the votes of those they despise.
Sheesh, this Eisenberg guy has shitty tastes in Democraps! For support of Babbitt and Wirth, the guy should be used for shark bait.
Dissembling Newspeak if I ever heard it. Whatever you think of Keyes and his caustic rhetoric, Schundler never... ever fit into that mold. He was shivved by DiFrancesco and Whitman pure and simple... and the RINOs inside the beltway signed off on it.
Unfortunately, the "entire spectrum of Republicans" includes several million people who would probably be equally comfortable in the DemocRatic party. I think there needs to be a real shaking out process in the political parties before any real change can be made in the direction of this country.
| Justice | President/Year | Senate |
| Douglas | FDR 1939 | 75D 17R 4I |
| Brennan | Ike 1956 | 48D 47R 1I |
| Stewart | Ike 1959 | 64D 34R |
| White | JFK 1962 | 65D 35R |
| Marshall | LBJ 1967 | 67D 33R |
| Burger | Nixon 1969 | 57D 43R |
| Blackmun | Nixon 1970 | 57D 43R |
| Powell | Nixon 1972 | 54D 45R?? |
| Rehnquist | Nixon 1972 | 54D 45R?? |
Although Nixon's four appointees were certainly over the slimmest majority in some time, they were still against a Democrat controlled Senate. I concede the point.
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