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To: CCWoody;OrthodoxPresbyterian; the_doc
Have you folks figured out why I said in #164 that 2 Peter 3:1-15 poses problems for the premill? (This is actually less sticky than the tongues issue, by the way!)

I see how this will hurt the full Preterist, but how does this "put to the sword" the premill?

John 5:25 - the first resurrection in Rev 20 which stated the 1000 years?


Do you all get my posts? I answered the resurrection to you Woody. Matt 12, 27. The resurrection Christ told Martha about. The resurrection of some saints at Christs resurrection.

Concerning 2 Peter 3:
The heavens and earth were burned with "fervent heat".
Heavens (God's "Old Covenant" with the Jews) Earth (Physical symbol and applications of the "old covenant" and law).
The Temple was literally "burned" and utterly left "desolate" (Matt 23-24).
277 posted on 01/17/2002 10:18:16 PM PST by NATE4"ONE NATION"
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To: NATE4"ONE NATION"
Concerning 2 Peter 3: The heavens and earth were burned with "fervent heat". Heavens (God's "Old Covenant" with the Jews) Earth (Physical symbol and applications of the "old covenant" and law). The Temple was literally "burned" and utterly left "desolate" (Matt 23-24).

NATE, I agree and am working up a study on this. Don't let up, this is the most powerful verses against fulfillment (I don't like the term preterism) and you are on the right track. Please pay particular attention to this tongues discussion unless you too are convinced I am "slobbering gibberish", a "liar" and given to "epileptic seizures". Satans vocabulary keeps up with the latest medical information, interesting.

283 posted on 01/18/2002 4:05:40 AM PST by vmatt
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To: NATE4"ONE NATION"
Nate, not that I am denying that there is end time symbolism involved in figuring this out, but it does seem that your full Preterist view takes it a bit to far.
284 posted on 01/18/2002 5:08:00 AM PST by CCWoody
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