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To: Billthedrill
More liberty and smaller government will, IMHO, necessarily mean less order, which we could live with more easily if we had the luxury of picking and choosing which aspects of order we can most easily do without. That, unfortunately, may be a luxury that is impossible to obtain.

The idea that government causes order is bizarre. Government is the single biggest cause of disorder, by far. We had order back in the days when we had small government. We lost it when big government came in.

One small example. Roosevelt brought in AFDC in the mid-thirties. It took a single generation to destroy the black family and bring disorder to the inner cities.

12 posted on 01/14/2002 8:02:58 AM PST by Architect
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To: Architect
The idea that government causes order is bizarre.

No, it isn't, and if you think it is you clearly are looking at it from a very restricted point of view - the one I meant by the phrase "special pleading." Try Rousseau on the topic, and Locke, and Hume. Try Thomas Paine in The Rights of Man and the book he wrote that as an argument against, Edmund Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France. It's a feature of nearly every theory of government and society from every side of the political spectrum; it is, after all, what government is for. If not that, then what?

16 posted on 01/14/2002 8:52:37 AM PST by Billthedrill
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