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Need FReeper Help With English Grammar
MB26

Posted on 01/08/2002 6:26:02 AM PST by MindBender26

Need help from a real English language maven:

Sentence in question is: "Larry Parks' day in court Monday didn't go half bad"

Is that correct, or is it "Larry Parks' day in court Monday didn't go half badly"?

Yeah, I know it's a lousy sentence in the first place, but I didn't write it.

Need someone who really knows English grammar for expert opinion.

Thanks


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To: lodwick
But didn't suck too badly....
21 posted on 01/08/2002 6:35:58 AM PST by bwteim
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To: MindBender26
It really depends on whether you're writing "natural-sounding dialogue," or you need show correct usage. "Half-bad" is the way people talk. "Half-badly" is correct English. "Half-badly" is modifying "day," telling you how the day went -- badly.

"The day went bad" would imply that, perhaps, the day joined a criminal gang, or had been kept past its expiration date.

The correct possessive is Parks's, by the way. (The possessive "Jesus'" is an exception to the rule).

22 posted on 01/08/2002 6:36:15 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: MindBender26
Well, the writer is using a double negative - didn't go half bad - that is an inauspicious beginning. It more properly should be "...went fairly well..." or "...all things considered, it went only half-badly..."
23 posted on 01/08/2002 6:36:50 AM PST by magoo_70115
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To: bwteim
lol
24 posted on 01/08/2002 6:37:43 AM PST by lodwick
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To: MindBender26
The outcome of Larry Parks' day in court wasn't half-bad.

The experience of the day in court wasn't half-bad.

Larry Parks did not have a half-bad day in court.

Larry Parks' day in court did not turn out half-bad.

It did not go half so bad as it might have.

It could have been worse.

25 posted on 01/08/2002 6:37:54 AM PST by SarahW
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To: Gumlegs
No, it's not. It's modifying "went." What a moron. (It should still be "badly," though).
26 posted on 01/08/2002 6:38:11 AM PST by Gumlegs
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I got rich treating compulsive personalities...
27 posted on 01/08/2002 6:38:46 AM PST by ofMagog
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To: lodwick
LOL. Works for me and no pesky rules to follow.
28 posted on 01/08/2002 6:39:04 AM PST by riley1992
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To: Gumlegs
The correct possessive is Parks's, by the way.

LOL. That was the first thing I noticed, and I was beginning to doubt whether anyone would ever mention it.

29 posted on 01/08/2002 6:39:25 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MindBender26
The colloquialism using "half-bad" is that something "isn't/wasn't half-bad."

Are you allowed to revise at all? In this sentence, you can change "didn't go" to "wasn't" (and be sure to hyphenate), or change "half-bad" to "too badly" (my vote).

If your choice is changing the last word only, I'd stick with "bad" - but hyphenate it, for the love of Pete!
30 posted on 01/08/2002 6:40:55 AM PST by Xenalyte
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To: MindBender26
By the way, the correct grammar for the sentence is

Larry Parks's day in court didn't suck as much as it could have.

31 posted on 01/08/2002 6:41:07 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: SarahW
"Larry Parks' day in court Monday didn't go half bad"

It could have been worse.

Larry Parks was hanged until he was only half dead.

32 posted on 01/08/2002 6:41:16 AM PST by bwteim
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To: MindBender26
Change "Larry Parks' day" to "Larry Parks's day".

The first rule in Strunk & White's "Elements of Style" is "Form the possessive singular of nouns by adding 's."
33 posted on 01/08/2002 6:41:42 AM PST by Sid Rich
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To: The Old Hoosier
"Half bad" is the correct expression, but it's slang. "Half badly" is gramatically better, but you'd never use it, because the sentence is designed to go with the expression "half bad," and you'd never use a sentence like that if you were interested in proper grammar.

I agree.

34 posted on 01/08/2002 6:41:56 AM PST by stanz
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To: MindBender26
The judge went easy on Larry, in court, on Monday?
35 posted on 01/08/2002 6:42:26 AM PST by budwiesest
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To: Sid Rich
Several Strunk fans struck at once.
36 posted on 01/08/2002 6:43:28 AM PST by Sid Rich
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To: Sid Rich
You're right. I think there's (a contraction, not a possessive), more on the subject in Fowler.
37 posted on 01/08/2002 6:43:38 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: MindBender26
Sentence in question is: "Larry Parks' day in court Monday didn't go half bad" Is that correct, or is it "Larry Parks' day in court Monday didn't go half badly"?

Actually these constructions mean 2 slightly different things. The first means that "things" didn't rot entirely. The second means that "things" did better than they might have. Either might be correct, depending on how the writer characterizes the event.

The possssive of "Parks'" classically would be written "Parks's" unless one is referring to Larry and one or more relatives in which case it would be "Parkses'". However, the tendency now is to write plural possessives as they are spoken.

38 posted on 01/08/2002 6:46:35 AM PST by arthurus
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To: MindBender26
Who is Larry Parks?
39 posted on 01/08/2002 6:48:31 AM PST by Diamond
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To: MindBender26
badly
40 posted on 01/08/2002 6:48:34 AM PST by George W. Bush
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