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Questions Lurk in a Dead Village
LA Times ^ | January 8, 2002 | By ALISSA J. RUBIN, Times Staff Writer

Posted on 01/08/2002 2:35:39 AM PST by News

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

QALAYE NIAZI, Afghanistan -- No one can be found to tell this story firsthand. There is disagreement from those who live nearby about the details of the bombing.

But what is clear is that where a small village once stood in the arid plains of east-central Afghanistan, there is little left but torn clothing, piles of brick, pieces of human flesh and hair, and a substantial stockpile of small-arms ammunition.


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Well ... this is the best example of the US state controlled media... (Stalin is green with envy)...

The US become the victim (prey) in Afganistan!!! :

...... the U.S. military may have unwittingly become prey to misinformation from local tribal chiefs and their cohorts.... ....., just settling old scores and revenge..... ......There are so many people who have satellite phones...these satellite phones appear(?) to have been distributed rather indiscriminately....

So it looks like while the USA just quietly minding its own business ( i.e. rearranging rocks in Afganistan using special explosives and laser technology)when those evil tribal leaders abused the good heart and naivity of the CIA and the US military intelligence and using the satellite phones ordering a bombing raid on their neighbours...

Is not that hearbreaking ?

It is so unfair... While the US people working so hard to be able to support their humanitarian rock re-arranging missions over the world, some people are just abusing the system. It is almost as bad when children calling the fire brigade when there is no fire and then just laugh around the corner.

And the sad thing that this is an epidemic... Already happend a week before. An other bogus phonecall resulted 60 Afghan elders got killed on the way to see the new president. The intelligent intelligence insist that they are sure that it was Taliban ... or ... Al Qaeda ... or the seven dwarf .... or .... anyway some bad guys from a cave or mine.... You know these satellite phones not always very clear.

Maybe some security procedures should be introduced, like when someone calls the bombing hotline to bomb their neighbour, they sould ask 'are you sure?' or something like that....

It could save many expensive taxpayer-financed bombs and all the troubles of take off the heavy B52-s, pushing butons on the latest high tech game-boy, washing hands after and so on...

1 posted on 01/08/2002 2:35:39 AM PST by News
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To: News
There weren't two incidents, Qalaye Niazi IS the same village as reported damaged earlier, with casualty reports ranging from 34 to 52 (UN estimate), to even a ridiculous claims of 'hundreds' claimed in some obscure Paki paper... not bad for a town the size of a rest stop.

The original Reuters report spoke of a cameraman, who was evidently out of film since he failed to take photos of what the Reuters reporter had described.

2 posted on 01/08/2002 3:06:50 AM PST by piasa
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Look up in the sky, Ahole. Looks like they figured out you're with Al Qaeda.
3 posted on 01/08/2002 3:15:49 AM PST by metesky
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"Well ... this is the best example of the US state controlled media... (Stalin is green with envy)..."

The bitterness of your blame-America-first comments betray your own "envy" of something. Power?

To start your post by comparing a sympathetic sentence in a mildly sympathetic article during war time to Stalin's state controlled media is the epitome of stupidity. I wonder how many hours you spent preparing for this big moment. {smile}

Have a good life…

4 posted on 01/08/2002 3:25:58 AM PST by elfman2
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To: piasa
It WAS two attacks... Before Christmas the convoy of the 60 Afghan elders to go to the inaguration of the new president were trapped by some old enemy.

The latest in 29 Dec clearly different.

Of course on CNN everything is blurred a bit, not blaming you in a country where the 'free press' means that you do not have to pay for it. Free of charge straight from the Pentagon briefing room, and as a bonus Holiwood doung the coloring. Also free.

It is officially marked 'perverse' to even mention civilian casualties in Afghanistan. It had been announced on the CNN. On request I send the link.

METESKY

You are one of those bright bushist... Who is not with us then he is against us...

In this case you have to count on about 5 billion al Qaeda supporters... In my estimate that many people disagrees with killing civilians in any war by military personnel no matter how dumb excuses they might come up with.

I wonder what the 'Ahole' might means ... Is that something to do with the final part of the human digestive system ? Having problem spelling it ?

5 posted on 01/08/2002 3:39:37 AM PST by News
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So you do some freetime psycoanalisis ?

Power...... Not 'envy' I have... That is 'fear'...

Blame-America-first.... You right ... I have drawn conclusion too soon without having a wider view of the events ... maybe those evil eskimos dropped the bombs... they were always suspicous with those slanted eyes.

Here is and age old story for you to analise...

The fox running like hell out of the forest. The bear stops him and ask why is the hurry...

The fox saying that the hunters are coming and they shot everybody who have 5 legs !!

But you have only 4 legs, do not worry ! saying the bear.

I know... say the fox... but they shot first and count after..

Tell this story in QALAYE NIAZI and ask them if they find it funny ?

6 posted on 01/08/2002 3:53:59 AM PST by News
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" they were always suspicous with those slanted eyes. "

So you're a racist too. Figures!

PS. Better run your future comments by some who can spell and conjugate,… and think.

7 posted on 01/08/2002 4:07:47 AM PST by elfman2
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Now you figured out that I am in the secret religion of the 'Streaten the slanted eyes mission', I can now confess to you, that English is not my native lanuage, and I do work really hard to spell and conjugate 'Ahole', f***ing, and these as good as many of the people who posting on these pages.

But I am always open for constructive criticism....

I guess apart of some minor semantic and sitax problem you largely agree with my previous comment ?

8 posted on 01/08/2002 4:20:03 AM PST by News
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What do you suppose "...a substantial stockpile of small-arms ammunition" was doing in this village?
9 posted on 01/08/2002 4:27:10 AM PST by Destructor
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It could save many expensive taxpayer-financed bombs and all the troubles of take off the heavy B52-s, pushing butons on the latest high tech game-boy, washing hands after and so on...

Get lost.

10 posted on 01/08/2002 4:38:58 AM PST by dighton
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"But I am always open for constructive criticism. I guess apart of some minor semantic and sitax problem you largely agree with my previous comment ?"

That's about as honest of a statement as half of what you've said here.

You're just here to release a little anger stemming from as much a personal problem as a political problem. Your state of mind is miles away from a place where honest discussion is possible, and you know it. You know better than to charge into a room like a wild dog and then ask of anyone wants to dance.

I don’t debate with barking dogs.

11 posted on 01/08/2002 4:42:53 AM PST by elfman2
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If you take the trouble to read the full article in the LA Times - or for that matter other state-allowed news bits - you would find it out that the arms and munitions were left behind the retreating Taliban. They just put it in some unfinished building before they disappeared.

At any account... would that justify sloughtering a complete vilage ?

I also wonder how the 'freerepers' thinking about the Serbs harsh cracking down on the KLA terrorists in the new light of the 'War on terrorism'...

12 posted on 01/08/2002 5:05:57 AM PST by News
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I just love this tidbit, it should have read, "Strewn about were what appeared to be the remains of simple lives. Pink, yellow, and blue dresses elaborately embroidered with flowers and leaves, and a substantial sockpile of small- arms ammuntion."

Send this lameo to tend camels in Afghanistan. If the women were "much better dressed than anywhere else in Afghanistan", then it's pretty clear they could be considered the elite Taliban of the area who were accustomed to much better than the peons whose necks they used for boot scrapes. Do these Liberal anti-American rags think this is the 70's where people never read between the lines?

13 posted on 01/08/2002 5:07:17 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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Well well well....

So you rather drag the discussion to my sate of my mind, where you feel more confindent as an amateur psychoanalist, than get in the risky business of discussing why do the Americans finace the killing of civilians in Afghanistan...

I have seen smarter ways to avoid discussions - responsibilities...

You avoid barking dogs too... 10.000 feet high in the sky... I can not blame you... lap-dogs are better trained and bringing your slippers and go to the corner when they told so....

14 posted on 01/08/2002 5:18:04 AM PST by News
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So you think that having a wedding dress should carry a death penalty ?

I do love that American free ways of thinking !!!! (carefully engineered by the Penta-gram-gon or whatever)

15 posted on 01/08/2002 5:23:30 AM PST by News
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"Strewn about were what appeared to be the remains of simple lives. Pink, yellow, and blue dresses elaborately embroidered with flowers and leaves, and a substantial sockpile of small- arms ammuntion."

Sounds like the Al-quiada had the inflatable babes stashed in the ammo shed.

Hey 'News' -- It's a good thing they left out the part about the camel and your sister . .

16 posted on 01/08/2002 5:25:26 AM PST by Crowcreek
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Let's see: we've dropped how many HUNDREDS of TONS of bombs since we started and how many dozens or less of innocents have mistakenly been killed?!!? We have what is likely to be the best war time record of non-combatant deaths in history, but that's not good enough for America-haters like you, is it?
17 posted on 01/08/2002 5:37:53 AM PST by SW6906
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Hey Crow....

I always had the feeling that the camel what you guys really after... Decadent feminists who demands orgazm and having constant PMS... Must be a hell over there... I can understand you... But next time if you ask nicely you can have the whole camel for $5. No need a $2 million rocket to get its back bit as your appointed/inherited president mentioned before the war.

18 posted on 01/08/2002 5:41:44 AM PST by News
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Your original piece and replies give your nationality away. Try learning proper english sentence structure before spewing your anti-American propaganda.

God Bless America

19 posted on 01/08/2002 5:49:40 AM PST by JustAnAmerican
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No where does it say these were wedding dresses, the women may have worn their best to attend a wedding but I suspect if their clothes were that much better than other Afghan women's, as the article states, that they were the semi-elite Taliban or Al Quada.

That is the thing about grinding other people under your boots, where's the fun if there are not more perks like better clothes for the little woman. If you think for a split second when given the choice of whom to believe, some simpering liberal twit, or our military who say they "know" these were the enemy, that I am going to believe a liberal twit, then I wonder what your purpose is on a conservative site? Your sure not going to influence my opinion given that the lie score is soundly in the anti-America column. Our State Department has yet to be found lying, the other's have yet to be found telling the truth, I doubt that is news to you though.

20 posted on 01/08/2002 5:53:42 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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