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To: Poohbah
the status quo ante that we went to war to overturn in the first place

My A$$....

Scott beat them with Regulars and Jackson beat them with Militia and swamp pirates

After Waterloo they could have come back, but they didn't!

WE WON .... BIG TIME!

Any questions?

121 posted on 01/08/2002 7:32:31 PM PST by watcher1
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To: watcher1
swamp pirates

Whoa. Did I just enter a B-movie?

132 posted on 01/08/2002 8:22:43 PM PST by tortoise
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To: watcher1
Scott beat them with Regulars and Jackson beat them with Militia and swamp pirates

And our invasion of Canada was an abject failure, Washington, DC was torched, and the war ended with the Treaty of Ghent, which basically said "no hurt, no foul."

Oh, and the Royal Navy continued press-ganging sailors off of American ships well into the 1830s.

After Waterloo they could have come back, but they didn't!

The war had been over for almost a year by that point, and the British had achieved their strategic objectives. Why go back when you don't NEED to?

WE WON .... BIG TIME!

Let's see, the British objectives were to (a) hold Canada, (b) destroy American overseas trade, and (c) obtain war termination on favorable terms--in particular, retaining the right to press-gang sailors from American merchant ships. All accomplished. Our goals were to (a) seize Canada from the Great Lakes eastward to the Atlantic seaboard, on the assumption that the rest would just fall into our laps afterward, and (b) end the Royal Navy's practice of grabbing sailors off of American ships, thus allowing for (c) war termination on favorable terms. None of these were accomplished.

Nations go to war to obtain things unobtainable by peaceful means. Please note that WE started the War of 1812. We failed to achieve our national goals in same.

Any questions?

Yeah. Is your historical ignorance a product of the public education system or Hollywood?

142 posted on 01/09/2002 5:08:06 AM PST by Poohbah
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