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Hepatitis shots urged for newborns { DON'T}
AP ^ | January 7, 2002 | AP

Posted on 01/07/2002 1:15:35 PM PST by expose

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Harrison Bergeron,Marie
Every mother should read the small print on the form that the hospital requires them to sign befor they give the newbornsthe shots.

That should answr your question.

I have personally talked to five diffeent mothers of newborns that had the hepitisis B shot and every one of them is having a problem with their children adjusting to solid foods. Ask the MOTHER of the newborns also its very It's important to know if the shot was incubated by a chicken egg or an monkey.

141 posted on 01/08/2002 11:45:34 AM PST by expose
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To: Harrison Bergeron
What's absurd and criminal is uneducated paranoids with weird political agendas giving out medical advice.

uh, what political agenda does one have who doesn't want others to mandate vaccines for their children? giving un-tested vaccines to newborns qualifies to me as experimental and thus irresponsibley criminal. bottom line, freep-tarrrrd, you care for your childs health the way you see fit and i'll care for mine..

142 posted on 01/08/2002 11:47:15 AM PST by sc01
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To: bonesmccoy
"Conservatives defend family."

Yes they do. Against government and either do-gooders full of hubris.

143 posted on 01/08/2002 11:48:06 AM PST by Tauzero
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To: sc01
AAPS ANALYSIS - MODEL EMERGENCY HEALTH POWERS ACT (MEHPA) TURNS GOVERNORS INTO DICTATORS Give us your children we know what's good for them better than your peons do!

--- Gobmint' Dictator

144 posted on 01/08/2002 11:55:15 AM PST by expose
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To: Marie
I'm so sorry for your son's health problems. I wish you luck and offer a prayer for his full recovery.

I know little or nothing about food intolerance syndromes. The google search I just did on "food intolerance" and "vaccine" revealed that some of the same shaky and unscientific studies that try to link vaccines with autism are attempting to link vaccines to bowel diseases. Before you take any such claims seriously, you have to consider that autism and bowel diseases strike unimmunized kids, and the vast overwhelming number of immunized kids are perfectly healthy. No credible data exists showing any causal relationships between vaccines and autism or bowel disease. But do the searches yourself. Confront your doctor with any credible looking data you may find. But don't, please don't, trust anonymous tips on the internet where the life of your child is concerned.

145 posted on 01/08/2002 11:56:16 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: expose
"I have personally talked to five diffeent mothers of newborns that had the hepitisis B shot and every one of them is having a problem with their children adjusting to solid foods. "

Really? When my son was born, there were seven - SEVEN - babies born in our office during the same month. All received Hep B shots at the doctor's office, all are healthy and eating fine. Same goes for the kids in the neighborhood, who all use the same local pediatrics practice.

I think you're lying.

146 posted on 01/08/2002 12:03:01 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: sc01
"bottom line, freep-tarrrrd, you care for your childs health the way you see fit and i'll care for mine..

"freep-tarrrrd?" LOL! Are you sure your not just harboring a grudge against the pediatricians because you're nine years old and he hurt you with the needle?

As for "caring for yours," do that. And stop giving out medical advice that could put the children of others at risk of losing their lives.

147 posted on 01/08/2002 12:16:46 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Yaelle
Right now they have no medical insurance until Mom's kicks back in. So this comes out of their pocket. I told my son to put off the next appointment and to tell the doc that it has come down to feeding and diapering Matthew or enriching the doc's coffers.
148 posted on 01/08/2002 1:04:04 PM PST by GailA
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To: Harrison Bergeron
urging parents to vaccinate their newborns so you can feel safe from germs strikes me as being childish. if you are engaging in risky lifestyle behavior then get your own damn hep-b vaccine

as for medical advice, i haven't given any and i would suggest you do the same.

149 posted on 01/08/2002 2:04:05 PM PST by sc01
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To: Marie
I have hospital documentation (granted, it's in German)

free translation
punch in your text (copy and paste) and let the machine do the work.

150 posted on 01/08/2002 2:45:32 PM PST by IRtorqued
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To: Tauzero
No conspiracy is necessary.

If you subsidize something, you will get more of it.

And the members of the medical profession are no more immune to orthodoxy than others.

Wait, let's back up for a minute.

The anti-vaccine "experts" around here make claims that vaccinating children is dangerous. They claim that the "evidence" is all around you and all you need to do is ignore the doctor and look at all the information on the internet. They then say the only reason that pediatricians "push" vaccines is to "line their pockets".

Now, it is clear to me that these people are saying that doctors are knowingly giving children vaccines they know are dangerous for the single purpose of making money.

Only, when the argument is put that way, realizing that just about EVERY pediatrician recommends vaccines, does the absolute silliness of the argument show itself.

152 posted on 01/08/2002 2:59:58 PM PST by TomB
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To: DoughtyOne
For how long does the vaccine give protection against Hep A or B?
153 posted on 01/08/2002 3:27:26 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Harrison Bergeron
But don't, please don't, trust anonymous tips on the internet where the life of your child is concerned.

Well, duh.

154 posted on 01/08/2002 3:30:26 PM PST by Marie
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To: Ditter
That's a good question. Most people don't realize that they should get another Tetanus shot every so often. Certain childhood vaccinations may also need to be redone. If I'm not mistaken Chickenpox is one of them. People should look into this.

I would suggest that you do an internet search for Engerix and Recombivax. You may be able to find an answer online.

155 posted on 01/08/2002 3:43:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Marie
One thing we found out when we were raising livestock was that there is always a % of a group of animals on which a vaccine will not take--for whatever reason.

And at the same, we've been warned about adverse reactions.

156 posted on 01/08/2002 4:07:47 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Lancey Howard
It is amazing how the government imposes its health Nazism through its schools.

IMO, that was the whole purpose of Jimmy Carter elevating Education to a cabinet position, and thus getting Federal dollars into local schools -- and the controls that go with the $$.

157 posted on 01/08/2002 4:57:23 PM PST by LantzALot
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To: Marie
"Well, duh."

The very fact that you engaged some of the anti-vaccine fanatics in discussion had me quite concerned.

158 posted on 01/08/2002 5:31:24 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Rowdee, Marie, bonesmccoy
"One thing we found out when we were raising livestock was that there is always a % of a group of animals on which a vaccine will not take--for whatever reason."

And, conversely, veterinarian schools are now looking seriously at overvaccination of pets as a source of rampant increases in diabetes, cancers, arthritis, and other potentially auto-immune related diseases. This doesn't have relevancy to humans at this point. The studies, which my veteranarian printed out for me, have to do with repeated annual vaccinations for rabies, distemper, parvo, etc. diseases which may be unnecessary - possibly harmful - at such frequent intervals. Many jurisdictions now allow blood titers to be taken for vaccine levels and will waive vaccinations if the titer result is certified as adequate to prevent disease by the vet. The titers are about as costly, sometimes less so, than the vacinations, so I go this route with my pets.

159 posted on 01/08/2002 5:50:43 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Nora
I agree about scheduling the vaccines as the risk of contracting the disease increases. My wife, a former medical malpractice attorney who defended doctors and hospitals, has seen many questionable cases where children suffer terrible, permanent, debilitating injuries from adverse effects of vaccines. While these cases usually come down to informed consent as opposed to malpractice issues, the fact remains that there are numerous unanswered questions about the adverse health effects of vaccines on some children. There are known risks associated with potential adverse reactions. What the medical community cannot tell parents is the chance of contracting hepatitis at 1-day, 1-month, 1-year vs. the chance of an adverse reaction to the vaccine at the same age. So it truly is a crapshoot, and parents owe it to their children to ask questions, diligently research the risks, and make an informed decision about when their children will be injected.

My wife is also a breast-feeding advocate who has been published in a national magazine. She wanted our babies to develop immunities and strength before being injected with vaccines, and I recall in particular that both of our children were not vaccinated with hep. b until age 3, and with merely a fever at that time. Our kids were never in a day care or school or anything else that might increase the risk of contracting the disease, however. In retrospect, with our daughter suffering a fever seizure at a 103 degree temp. a year later, I believe we did the absolute right thing in waiting so as to avoid a potentially more devastating result at 1 year, 6 months, or God-forbid, as a newborn.

The comments in the reply to your post are wholly unwarranted. Parents should make the most informed decisions they can make regarding vaccines. It certainly is never the doctor's decision.

160 posted on 01/08/2002 6:17:54 PM PST by Kryptonite
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