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To: AppyPappy
First: You know, I like you, and I virtually always enjoy your posts; in fact, it is literally true that my 15yo boy could QUOTE one particular post of yours right now if you woke him up and pop-quizzed him. So why do you ONLY EVER address me to DISAGREE with me??? /c;

Second: he sure is. Don't know where you've been on this; me, I've been round and round and finally gave up trying to reason with Keyesters on it. If President Bush said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the only-begotten Son of God, conceived in the womb of the virgin Mary, crucified for our sins, and risen on the third day," Keyes' response would be something like, "'Only-begotten' may translate the Latin unigenitas, but as a rendering of the Greek monogenes it is deficient, and I think it is shocking and shameful that a President of the United States could make such a misleading and ignorant statement!" If Bush passed an Executive Order right now making every abortion in America illegal except for those for rape, incest, and the life of the mother, Keyes would only find himself able to lament those ~3% of abortions Bush had not touched.

Okay, so now it's your turn: disagree.

Dan

423 posted on 01/08/2002 6:26:15 AM PST by BibChr
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To: BibChr
I don't know Dan. Maybe it's a conspiracy.

Keyes may disagree with Bush on some matters but that doesn't make him a Bush-basher ala CNN or Colmes. Is Gary Bauer a Bush basher? Or Orin Hatch? or Steve Forbes? All of them have disagreed with Bush on some things. We are allowed to disgree with Bush, aren't we?

426 posted on 01/08/2002 6:47:00 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: BibChr
If Bush passed an Executive Order right now making every abortion in America illegal except for those for rape, incest, and the life of the mother, Keyes would only find himself able to lament those ~3% of abortions Bush had not touched.

In the 1996 campaign, Buchananites attempted to smear Keyes by saying he made exceptions for rape and incest in abortions. In the following message, Keyes addresses this, and states that he does not favor those exceptions. But he also indicates that he would be willing to accept a pro-life amendment to the Constitution that would make these exceptions, if necessary.

Alan Keyes: I have been involved in the pro-life movement for many years, and am on the record frequently as to my unalterable position of principle on the issue. I MAKE an exception only for the physical life of the mother. Given the unalienable right to life (i.e., self-preservation) I see no way in principle to avoid making this exception. I would ACCEPT the rape and incest exceptions only as a matter of political necessity if that is the best legislation we could achieve at the time (precisely the circumstances you allude to in your message). I see no grounds in principle for making these exceptions, but I do regard people who, for emotional reasons, make them (such as George Bush) as fellow pro-lifers. As a matter of political prudence it would be suicidal for the pro-life movement to reject these people. Though I disagree with them in principle, I will NOT pursue that disagreement in such a way as to lead the pro-life movement toward political suicide. . . .

Feel free to pass this along to anyone who may be in need of clarification on my stance against abortion. Alan Keyes, June 30, 1995


436 posted on 01/08/2002 8:10:56 AM PST by Gelato
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To: BibChr
If President Bush said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the only-begotten Son of God, conceived in the womb of the virgin Mary, crucified for our sins, and risen on the third day," Keyes' response would be something like, "'Only-begotten' may translate the Latin unigenitas, but as a rendering of the Greek monogenes it is deficient, and I think it is shocking and shameful that a President of the United States could make such a misleading and ignorant statement!"

PERFECT!! This is the funniest thing I've ever seen on FR - you have NAILED it! LOL! Worth seeing again in bold.

440 posted on 01/08/2002 8:30:50 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: BibChr
Thanks, BibChr, for the bump.....the magic 1,000 continues to become closer and closer. I had forgotten about you totally, sorry. I'm sure we can count on you to keep bumping for the conservative cause, right?

Again, thanks so much....keep that computer burning up the net.

444 posted on 01/08/2002 8:49:49 AM PST by Rowdee
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To: BibChr
Dan, your hypothetical about Keyes' response to Bush is absolute poppycock. I know you were trying to be a tad humorous, but you have to understand that by presenting an exaggerated scenario you feed the flames of discontent and malign the truth.
462 posted on 01/08/2002 12:07:57 PM PST by Registered
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To: BibChr; Miss Marple
If President Bush said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the only-begotten Son of God, conceived in the womb of the virgin Mary, crucified for our sins, and risen on the third day," Keyes' response would be something like, "'Only-begotten' may translate the Latin unigenitas, but as a rendering of the Greek monogenes it is deficient, and I think it is shocking and shameful that a President of the United States could make such a misleading and ignorant statement!"

LOL! Careful Dan, Miss Marple doesn't appreciate this kind of satire -- prepare to be admonished!

Thanks for bumping this announcement! Hope you'll be watching the show!

Regards,

478 posted on 01/08/2002 1:15:21 PM PST by Keyes For President
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