[Jim Robinson]

Yeah, and there's another saying too. And I do not know who said it, but it goes something like this, "You wouldn't know the truth if it walked up and bit you on the butt."

[Arator]

Jim, I will not argue with you. I will only suggest that you add the following to your reading list:

Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor by Robert Stinnett, who himself served in the US Navy from '42 to '46, where he earned ten battle stars and a Presidential Unit Citation.

His patriotism did not keep him from learning the truth about just what his government was capable of back in '41. He pursued and found the truth about the event which provided the pretext for the war in which he served so ably and so well.

Fifty years from now, will a similar book be written by a veteran of the War on Terror? Only time will tell...

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

You wouldn't know the truth if it walked up and bit you on the butt."

A little Arator goes a long way, Jim, my main complaint is not enough censorship, but I won't go into that here.