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PAGE SIX/Lock & loaded (Keyes MSNBC Show?)
New York Post ^ | 1/04/02 | RICHARD JOHNSON with PAULA FROELICH and CHRIS WILSON

Posted on 01/04/2002 12:25:32 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:03:11 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

THE folks at Msnbc are talking to former Republican presidential candidate and former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Alan Keyes about hosting a 10 p.m. show up against Fox News' new hire, Greta Van Susteren. Meanwhile, Van Susteren, a lawyer before her O.J. Simpson commentary turned her into a CNN star, reportedly has penned an eight-page memo detailing CNN's demerits. She plans to keep the document secret as long as CNN doesn't try to paint her as an ungrateful traitor.


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To: Keyes For President,seattlesue
Would sure love to see a lot of that TEAL all over the place here. :)
401 posted on 01/04/2002 7:45:16 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
If you can cite a quote in which Dr. Keyes said that GWB WAS evil, as opposed to one in which he said that GWB DID evil, bring it on!

Very Clintonesque of you.

How would saying an ACTION that somebody did was EVIL not mean the person was EVIL?

If I say that a person MURDERED somebody, does that mean he's NOT really a killer, but his ACTION murdered somebody, not him?

402 posted on 01/04/2002 7:46:38 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
So, this is what we were talking about a few hundred posts ago :)

For whatever reason, the Keyes folks won't discuss the deeper issue:

Why they think they are better than everyone else

And even if they were provably better than (which they are not) how does that give them license to trash the rest of us

They pretend to not understand the acrimony -- yet they refuse to discuss what they do that is so offensive to others

As I say, arrogance almost always leads to delusion

403 posted on 01/04/2002 7:47:58 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
On 740AM out of Tulsa he said that Gore was much more intelligent and qualified to be President and was going to win in November or words to that effect. I don't feel like going to the tape to get the exact comments that were made but it was pretty close to those!

From the article:

"So when he stands toe to toe with Al Gore on issues like abortion, he will come off looking second best because he doesn't know how to make the case properly and effectively -- and so we'll lose."

Now if that doesn't say that Gore is better than Bush at making his point then nothing does! BTW are you keyes?

404 posted on 01/04/2002 7:48:23 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: deport
"Ambassador Keyes has pledged his support for George W. Bush, and we're all wishing him the best."

Now why am I NOT feeling the love in this statement. ROFLMAO.

405 posted on 01/04/2002 7:48:36 PM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: Rowdee
You'll just NEVER learn, will you?

See #399.

We NEVER come without the facts, a claim you can NEVER make, Rowdee.

406 posted on 01/04/2002 7:48:41 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Sunsong
Do you really think that you won't see conflict and acrimony in Keyes threads

It is quite clear that you do not know what you are talking about. To do a little fact checking, go back and check out Keyes threads that have less than a hundred posts. Usually that means that the usual suspects did not show up and start a flame war. You will generally find calm discussion of issues, with virtually no personalities discussed. If you find an exception to this, please ping me. Based on your comments, you have not happenned upon these threads.

407 posted on 01/04/2002 7:49:08 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Howlin; exodus
I can back it up; so can the rest of these people.

Yep, I can back that up. I think I still have copies of those threads.

408 posted on 01/04/2002 7:49:39 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Howlin
To: carenot
Not until ten days before the election.
And I don't believe he's supported him since then.
# 388 by Howlin

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He asked his people to vote for Bush.
Keyes voted for Bush.

Keyes supports Bush's un-Constitutional war on terrorism.
I would think that that would be enough support.

How much support does he have to give before you consider him a good Republican?
Do you think Keyes has to worship at the alter of the mighty Bush to show support?
It seems that Keyes can never be forgiven for the sin of running against Bush.

409 posted on 01/04/2002 7:50:07 PM PST by exodus
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To: deport
I love you, man. :-)
410 posted on 01/04/2002 7:50:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Aquinasfan
I'll go with MSNBC, thanks! Greta can be so dense about what's really going on. I approached her outside the S. M. courthouse during O. J. trial, and she ignored all the evidence against him, assuring me prosecutors were biased (as some were in Chicago).
411 posted on 01/04/2002 7:51:03 PM PST by boltfromblue
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To: McGavin999; Howlin
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To: Howlin; exodus
Yep, I can back that up. I think I still have copies of those threads.
# 408 by McGavin999

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I'm ready, Master Packrat.

412 posted on 01/04/2002 7:52:25 PM PST by exodus
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To: carenot
Well I listen to talk radio all the time and I did not hear one of the hosts say that they wished keyes could win at least not here in OK or TX! Rush supported Bush all the way!
413 posted on 01/04/2002 7:52:28 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: McGavin999
I think I still have copies of those threads

Oh please share......pretty please. I want to see them stumble over themselves trying to squirm out of the facts. I used to have the copies of many of the threads but foolishly deleted them, thinking that Keyes was just a vague memory.

414 posted on 01/04/2002 7:52:53 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: exodus
Oh, please. Nobody cares if he ran; the only reason we continue to even discuss him is because he's NOT a graceful loser.

How about showing me where Keyes has stated he supports Bush anywhere on anything. And I do mean WITHOUT adding something like, "Mrs. Bush's speech was good, but I think she should have talked about abortion."

I mean without qualifying it.

415 posted on 01/04/2002 7:53:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Miss Marple
Doggedly refusing to consider the Republican race settled, Alan Keyes told Oklahomans that Texas Gov. George W. Bush can't win the presidency because he lacks the skills to expose the ``great moral betrayal'' of the Clinton administration. Ending a two-day campaign stop in the state Friday, Keyes stuck mainly to religious and philosophical themes as he decried a society he said is more dependent on government than God.

Let me see here.

Bush has said,"Let's move on" about the Clinton stuff.

"Keyes stuck mainly to religious and philosophical themes.

The only thing that I see that Keyes had wrong was the "Bush can't win".

416 posted on 01/04/2002 7:54:27 PM PST by carenot
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To: Rowdee
Would sure love to see a lot of that TEAL all over the place here. :)

Rowdee, you are toooo sweet! I am hoping the day will soon be here when I can be more involved again. It really means a lot to know I have been missed.

417 posted on 01/04/2002 7:55:02 PM PST by seattlesue
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I'm still waiting for you to answer:

Do you think that I am less than Hitler? That is what you said isn't it?

Are you willing to discuss the issue of arrogance??? Do you think the Keyes and Keyes supporters are better than everyone else? And why?

418 posted on 01/04/2002 7:55:06 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: exodus
Maybe Keyes could try attacking Tom Daschle for a change. Of course, that would require setting aside Alan's personal aspirations.
419 posted on 01/04/2002 7:55:11 PM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: Torie
beyond race and abortion issues which dominate his rhetoric

You do realize that he was a State Department appointment (Ambassador) and ran Citizens Against Government Waste. I doubt that he will have much of a problem talking on these topics, and others.

420 posted on 01/04/2002 7:55:33 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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