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Judge fines women who return to their alleged abusers
Lexington Hearld-Leader ^ | 01/03/2002 | John Cheves

Posted on 01/03/2002 8:22:18 AM PST by MrCraig

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To: Freemyland
This judge also said he knows of one instance where the parties were out on the town together, and were pulled over for some traffic offense or the other. The officer arrested the man on the spot because he was violating the order, even thought the parties had "made up."

I had a similar situation with a student once. The boyfriend showed up at class and the girlfriend begged us to hide her. All of us were put in the middle of an ugly situation. As per school policy, she got a restraining order for the protection of us all. A week later, I saw them out together.

This twit put us all at risk and then put us back in this same situtation a week later. I saw this happen again and again. Another friend had one of her students shot to death in front of her and the rest of the class. This is no joking matter and this judge is justified with his fines. It's a waste of the court's time and it endangers innocent people on the periphery of the situation, not to mention the law enforcement officers who are put at risk on every call.

We've had enough of the "victim mentality." It serves no one except to be political fodder for nutty feminists and kooky social science professors.

41 posted on 01/03/2002 9:08:01 AM PST by Exigence
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To: GMMAC
Are you implying that young men shouldn't be told the same thing when choosing wives?

Nope.

But I'm also not foolish enough to go around with the "men and women" are the same blinders on. The genders are "wired" differently and typically react differently, despite what the (usually childless) liberal scholars claim.

42 posted on 01/03/2002 9:11:44 AM PST by Exigence
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
They waste the time of the cops who have to go out on domestic violence calls just to hear the pleas of the person who called, "Don't arrest him! Don't arrest him!"

An ex-cop friend of mine told me that by far the worst part of his job was showing up time and time again at the same houses on domestic violence complaints. The women almost always returned to their abusers. Some died.

43 posted on 01/03/2002 9:14:40 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: ArrogantBustard
One nit to pick: I strongly suspect that Judge Megan Lake Thornton is not a "he"...

That's a good nit to pick. :o)

Thanks for setting me straight. I'll clean up my pronouns on future posts.

44 posted on 01/03/2002 9:15:09 AM PST by Exigence
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To: RogueIsland
The women almost always returned to their abusers. Some died.

Even worse, there are often children involved -- either by the abuser or from future relationships. Even if they are not being directly abused, they are forced by their dimwitted mothers to witness this violence.

45 posted on 01/03/2002 9:16:59 AM PST by Exigence
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To: Exigence
I found interesting that it is a female judge that finally had the combination of guts and brains to tell these silly bimbos to straighten up and fly right. I hope her example inspires other judges, of either sex, to similar wisdom.

AB

47 posted on 01/03/2002 9:29:14 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Kakaze
The coward left and told his daughter he knew I meant what I said..no gun no fist the power of locking up a coward is whats needed. Amazing what good a strong just judge can do and the power a piece of paper can sometimes wield.

From your post I can't tell for sure if it was you or the daughter who told the abuser to leave. But, in any case, it is not a smart idea to answer the door and think the threat of jail will stop someone, or that an abuser will respect a restraining order. If this cretin was at the front door, chances are that he was already in violation of any restraining order. Lots of people have died in the mistaken belief that a restraining order will somehow protect them. A woman's best defense is to be armed and to be prepared to shoot. If a woman doesn't have the fortitude to do that, then she will remain in peril and her life will continue to be controlled by her abuser. But never open the door to an abuser. Tell him to go away and be prepared to defend yourself if he doesn't.

48 posted on 01/03/2002 9:47:07 AM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: RogueIsland
Oh yeah, it's a crazy situation. A lot of states have passed laws that say, in a nutshell, if cops show up to a house for a domestic violence call, at least one of the parties has to be arrested, period. The police departments probably figure that it's better to face a false arrest lawsuit than it is to face wrongful death lawsuit.
49 posted on 01/03/2002 9:48:11 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: ArrogantBustard
I found interesting that it is a female judge that finally had the combination of guts and brains to tell these silly bimbos to straighten up and fly right.

I think intelligent women (who have succumbed to the feminist rhetoric) have less patience with these "victims" than most men. They realize that not calling them on their dumb behavior makes all women look inconsequential and foolish.

50 posted on 01/03/2002 9:53:57 AM PST by Exigence
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To: AlaskaErik
Never said I wasn't armed Erik.....didn't need to show it and it was after the fact that her daughter spoke with the abuser and then told me he knew I was serious...he hasn't been back...
51 posted on 01/03/2002 9:57:22 AM PST by Kakaze
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To: DrGoodWillHunting
*ping* ! Thought this thread might interest you. I'm with the judge on this one. Good call!
52 posted on 01/03/2002 10:51:16 AM PST by goodieD
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To: goodieD
I agree with the judge as well. ``I think that both parties are obligated to follow through with the order,'' Thornton said. ``You can't have it both ways.''

The part I bolded/underlined above pretty much sums up the whole thing.

By the way, your FreeRepublic profile page is hilarious.

53 posted on 01/03/2002 12:48:25 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: goodieD
I agree with the judge as well. ``I think that both parties are obligated to follow through with the order,'' Thornton said. ``You can't have it both ways.''

The part I bolded/underlined above pretty much sums up the whole thing.

By the way, your FreeRepublic profile page is hilarious.

54 posted on 01/03/2002 12:48:25 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: Dr. Good Will Hunting
In a good way I hope..hehe.
55 posted on 01/03/2002 1:22:32 PM PST by goodieD
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To: goodieD
In a good way. You're welcome to check mine out as well.
56 posted on 01/03/2002 1:25:58 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: MrCraig
How many times did the abuse occur BEFORE she had the courage to get the order?

I think the judge is right !

She is trying to prevent a re-occurance of a dangerous cycle of violence, bravo !

The " Kitties " should stop playing games and save the court's time and taxpayers money.

57 posted on 01/03/2002 1:58:42 PM PST by carnaby
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