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BUCHANAN DECLARES: DEATH OF THE WEST
Drudge Report ^ | 01/02/2002 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 01/02/2002 7:00:39 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: Bush2000
"...Buchanan's ideas are borrowed from the 19th century. We have already seen where such isolationism leads us (WWI, Pearl Harbor, etc), and it ain't pretty. Sad to say, the world does need a policeman. Our military is the only insulation that we have against tyranny...."

Splendid. Really, George Bush on his most inarticulate day couldn't have said it better, given that most of the truly great ideas in human history are borrowed from the past.

isolationismis a term borrowed from the British policy ofsplendid isolationfrom the troubles of the European continent. Although always practiced spottily and hypocritically, while it was practiced Britain could still place the "Great" in front of it's name without provoking howls of laughter.

I'll never understand why American so-called isolationists adopted that word. Whever words are imported from England, misunderstandings inevitably arise.

Anyway, when we tried to follow George Washington's advice--also spottily and hypocritically at times--more people in the world admired, even loved, us as a People and the concept of our country; the Vienamese, the Koreans, the Chinese, Africans, Indians, Arabs--people on the street all over the planet harbored no ill will towards us.

Our intervention in WWI led directly to the resumptions of hostilities in WWII. And Pearl Harbor was just one of many instances of collateral damage in the American Progressive's 100 year jihad to uplift the masses of the world with free markets and easily obtained birth control.

And yet, even then, the Elites still payed lip-service to our founding document and actually went through the ritual of a declaration of war. It's really astonishing how willing the American People have been to become mameluks for their progressive Elites--who despise them far worse than any foreign agressor. Fascinating. And depressing.

301 posted on 01/02/2002 9:09:31 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: Clemenza
I too am a America Firster, albeit NOT IN THE BUCHANANITE SENSE OF "BLOOD AND SOIL."

Buchanan für Präsidenten 2004
Blut und Boden!

302 posted on 01/02/2002 9:10:20 AM PST by Petronski
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To: nomasmojarras
Mexico to slash oil output

Mexico has resources other than tourism. But, they are going to buddy up with OPEC and reduce their oil supply while sending their people here to mooch off of the United States. With amigos like that, you don't need enemies.

I sincerely believe that our problems with Mexico is the most serious long term problem facing America.

303 posted on 01/02/2002 9:10:44 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: duckln
You were the one who tried to impress us with Buchanan's presidential qualifications...'advisor to three presidents, CNN commentator, bookwriter.'

Does anybody actually believe they would be safer in American after the September 11 attacks if we had President Pat Buchanan and Vice Predident Ezola Foster running the military offensive?

And when voting for Buchanan did you ever think what kind of cabinet he would put together, considering his choice of Ezola Foster as his running mate? And what would happen if he died in office, and his VP Ezola called in sick with a worker's comp claim?

304 posted on 01/02/2002 9:10:45 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Bush2000
I believe that we should intervene when our national interests are at stake.

Pursuing *our* interest will eventually turn our nation into chaos. Its already catching up to us, and has been for many years now.

I repeat. We were warned many years ago about global intervention. Its about time we take notice.

305 posted on 01/02/2002 9:11:07 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Just about all of them, who have people who hate us... Heck, the Taliban regime had to write a law to prevent men from getting a haircut ala Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic. Even under the most oppressive regime, people were still trying to get recordings of our movies.
306 posted on 01/02/2002 9:11:50 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Osinski
Oh...stop playing hard to get.
307 posted on 01/02/2002 9:12:14 AM PST by ResistorSister
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
It's really astonishing how willing the American People have been to become mameluks for their progressive Elites--who despise them far worse than any foreign agressor. Fascinating. And depressing.

Very well said.

308 posted on 01/02/2002 9:12:51 AM PST by Arator
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To: Petronski
Buchanan für Präsidenten 2004 Blut und Boden!

Get real.

309 posted on 01/02/2002 9:13:29 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Brownie74
"" sincerely believe that our problems with Mexico is the most serious long term problem facing America.""

Yep, and Bush's seeming infatuation with that Fox con man SCARES THE HECK OUT OF ME.
311 posted on 01/02/2002 9:14:45 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
Some quotes from our estemed leaders:

Condi Rice Speech 12-Jun-99:

“Reflect not on what you have learned but on how you have learned it ... You were not admitted to Stanford for what you had already achieved. You were chosen because of your potential to contribute from here on.” [i.e. “how we can use you”]

“This is, I believe, the greatest challenge that we, the human race, faces in the century to come: building multiethnic democracies that work --”

“We need a more inclusive notion of culture and identity -- one that does not make culture a barrier, where the price of admission is origin and blood. I am one who believes that cultures can be adopted.”

“To be multicultural is not just to have many cultures represented within an institution -- it is to recognize that individuals can be and often are multicultural themselves. In some sense, multiculturality is at its best when it is within each and every one of us.”

“We need to find forms of governance that permit people of different races, ethnic backgrounds and creeds to live together and push toward a common goal. I know that the American concept of citizenship is not universally shared. But it does have its advantages. That you can be American not by virtue of blood but by acceptance of a set of values and beliefs is so much the story of this country's success. And it is a model that is spreading -- delinking citizenship and territory and ethnicity. Even in Germany, a country for which the iron link between blood and nation has caused so many woes, universal citizenship is finally coming into being. Often it is pointed out that this is not natural. But I ask you, what is the alternative? If every group must rule itself, there is no end to the chaos that self-determination will bring as borders are drawn and redrawn.” --[Citizenship that is “based on beliefs” means only the politically-correct will have “rights”]

“Are you really committed to living in accordance with all that you say about the value of diversity -- are you just tolerant of them, or are they among your friends?”

Remember, this is the President's National Security Advisor. I think we can presume that she sees no threat whatsoever from the millions of Mexicans and other nationalities who are invading our country, and that she is in complete accord with Colin Powell's statement:

“Our common border is no longer a line that divides us, but a region that unites our nations, reflecting our common aspirations, values and culture,”

312 posted on 01/02/2002 9:15:00 AM PST by Jack Barbara
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To: Pokey78
I picture Pat standing on a bridge in Illinios right now talking about how the "the Jew uses the Black for muscle", then breaking into a rousing rendition of "Weissmanner Uber Alles".
313 posted on 01/02/2002 9:15:22 AM PST by Wm Bach
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To: Joe Hadenuf
It's just satire.
314 posted on 01/02/2002 9:15:28 AM PST by Petronski
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To: Celtjew Libertarian;Joe Hadenuf
Well, my computer is burping on me. Sorry about the triple-posting.
315 posted on 01/02/2002 9:15:45 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Clemenza
My point still stands, those countries suck, period. If not they would have inflows of people not have people like you act as their resettlement agent from the UN. As for those countries you list from Europe they have their problems, but their women look better and since I'm a good looking WASP gentlemen this is good. As far as being a "racialist", whatever. But however I do like my women fair of face with light colored eyes (FTR I am dating a brunette with green/blue eyes), and yes there are pretty women of other "races", but I'll take mine from the Northern latitudes and I'll leave you to the Equatorial babes. If this is "eugenist" thought and incompatible with some utopian universalist crap, f-em.
316 posted on 01/02/2002 9:16:29 AM PST by junta
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Splendid. Really, George Bush on his most inarticulate day couldn't have said it better, given that most of the truly great ideas in human history are borrowed from the past.

Except we're not talking about "great ideas" here. We're talking about ideas that have resulted in massive tolls on human life and property.

I'll never understand why American so-called isolationists adopted that word. Whever words are imported from England, misunderstandings inevitably arise.

Regardless of the term's origin, it has come to mean ignoring international events -- wars, economic embargoes, tariffs, etc -- because they don't have immediate consequences to us.

Anyway, when we tried to follow George Washington's advice--also spottily and hypocritically at times--more people in the world admired, even loved, us as a People and the concept of our country; the Vienamese, the Koreans, the Chinese, Africans, Indians, Arabs--people on the street all over the planet harbored no ill will towards us.

All of those nations also weren't threatened by our trade prosperity. Likewise, as someone else pointed out on this thread, they weren't worried that we could deploy ships, planes, and tanks on their soil within a few hours. Your analogy has no relevance within the framework of the modern world.

Our intervention in WWI led directly to the resumptions of hostilities in WWII.

Wrong. WWII was caused by a failure to completely neuter Germany's munitions capabilities and ignoring it when it did happen.

And Pearl Harbor was just one of many instances of collateral damage in the American Progressive's 100 year jihad to uplift the masses of the world with free markets and easily obtained birth control.

That statement is positively one of the most ignorant things I've heard in a long time. It doesn't even deserve a response.

And yet, even then, the Elites still payed lip-service to our founding document and actually went through the ritual of a declaration of war. It's really astonishing how willing the American People have been to become mameluks for their progressive Elites--who despise them far worse than any foreign agressor. Fascinating. And depressing.

I'm beginning to suspect that your Prozac prescription has run out...
317 posted on 01/02/2002 9:17:11 AM PST by Bush2000
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To: teenager;Barnacle
Do you think that filling the US up with third world illiterates is going to build up America?

Teenager, you would think that this would be painfully obvious by now. Apparently the obvious even escapes many Freepers. I am flat out disgusted with how the "racist" card is thrown around here by some in an attempt to silence debate on a very serious issue. You don't have to be xenophobic to understand that as umpteen millions of people from 3rd world nations storm our borders ever year that at some point America will become more like the countries where they came from. This is especially true when the immigrants refuse to learn English unlike past immigrants and fully import their customs while rejecting ours. I am no fan of PB but he does raise many important points on this subject and is one of the few that has the guts to walk through the gauntlet of bashing PC thought police to tell the truth.

318 posted on 01/02/2002 9:17:16 AM PST by WRhine
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To: Brownie74
How can one speak logically about the future? And what in the world does people dying in wars have to do with my not being able to affect this countries' future?
319 posted on 01/02/2002 9:17:37 AM PST by stuartcr
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