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To: discostu
You are equating choice in wine (one's tastes in alcohol) with deciding whether or not to raise children (one of the primary experiences of human life). If you don't find that absurd, I really don't know what to say.
209 posted on 01/02/2002 1:22:57 PM PST by Pistias
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To: Pistias
I was drawing a parable not a parrallel, I even stated that the two were by no means on equal footing. But the equation still exists, should some one partake of something they do not enjoy, is that something still "best" if they, for whatever reason, have no capacity to find the experience pleasurable or desirable? You were talking about making the best life by experiencing the best in life, which is certainly a valid way to go about having a good life. What I was pointing out was that for all of us there are categories in life that we simply do not enjoy and want nothing to do with, and experiencing things in those categories (whether it be the best of that category or not) will not enhance a person's life.

Wine was an example I used to take it out of the ethereal (to discuss a specific), and to take remove the importance of the decision (which often clouds the decision, the simplest decision in the world becomes nearly impossible if you assign great significance to it). Taking it down to something easily understood and rather insignificant to illustrate the base mechanism at work.

The mechanism being that some people simply do not like kids and will not like kids no matter what. And all the rave reviews of the joys of parenthood from those that like kids have no bearing on the situation. If someone just plain does not like kids having them will no be "best" and will not lead to them having the best life. Because best, in all things, is a matter of taste and choice and what's best for you has little if any bearing on what's best for me.

214 posted on 01/02/2002 1:47:37 PM PST by discostu
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To: Pistias
"You are equating choice in wine (one's tastes in alcohol) with deciding whether or not to raise children (one of the primary experiences of human life). If you don't find that absurd, I really don't know what to say."

I would rather have a cellar full of wine than a cellar full of kids.

This thread is starting to sound like a bunch of Hillary quotes about 'the chilllldren'. Life does not consist of just having children. Jeesh!

254 posted on 01/02/2002 4:11:59 PM PST by Rogmonster
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To: Pistias
You are equating choice in wine (one's tastes in alcohol) with deciding whether or not to raise children (one of the primary experiences of human life).

Ah, ah, ah -- you are not allowed to use the conclusion (that raising children is "one of the primary experiences of human life") as one of the steps in your argument.

272 posted on 01/03/2002 5:20:45 AM PST by steve-b
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