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To: independentmind
People that use the job thing are just excuse mongering, and you shouldn't help them. I was raised by a single mother who worked full time. It's not that hard to teach a child discipline and manners, you just have to be willing to put out a bit of effort. It took me one solid spanking (1 of about 4 I got in my entire childhood) to learn not to throw tantrums in stores (oh and some really ugly clothes, clothes for the new school year was the reason we went to the store, so after the spanking and taking me home mom went back and got some of the nastiest clothes ever made, I couldn't wait to outgrow that stuff).

If people aren't going to dedicate the time and energy they shouldn't have kids. If they've had kids then they damn well better find the time and energy it takes to raise them right.

165 posted on 01/02/2002 12:06:25 PM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
There were no excuses made by me. I merely stated that in my experience children from families where both parents work outside the home are noticeably less well-mannered and well-adjusted. There are also several studies which suggest that children in full-time daycare are markedly more aggressive than children raised at home.

I'm glad that your single mom was able to do a good job. That, however, does not address whether that is the best way to raise children for most people. And you will have a very tough time disproving that, in general, the best way to raise children is in a two-parent family where one parent devotes his or her time primarily to caregiving.

172 posted on 01/02/2002 12:15:45 PM PST by independentmind
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To: discostu
If people aren't going to dedicate the time and energy they shouldn't have kids. If they've had kids then they damn well better find the time and energy it takes to raise them right.

Very well said.

179 posted on 01/02/2002 12:28:03 PM PST by Emmanual_Goldstein16
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To: discostu
thank you! i am a single guy who has no desire to have children. i am also pro-life and i have no desire to get married. i have two nieces who i adore, but frankly in small doses. they are wonderful, well behaved kids, but even acknowledging that, i am frankly glad when i leave that family function. i think the woman that wrote this original article is a b*tch, but at least she is honest. i have never understood why it is that people that are either married and have kids or do not feel it is their duty to instruct the happy single and or childless how we should live our lives.
262 posted on 01/02/2002 4:39:55 PM PST by kevman
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